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Wasilla Is In Meth Capital of Alaska
Juneau Empire | Submitted by: PooPatrol
"In 2003, authorities uncovered nine meth labs in the area. Last year, the number increased to 42, said Kyle Young, an investigator with the troopers who works with the Mat-Su narcotics team... When authorities surrounded a converted bus housing a meth operation in Big Lake in January, a 13-year-old boy who answered the door bragged that his mom cooked the best meth in the valley, according to the troopers."
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From: studgerbil
[Stud]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 12:39
This is irrelevant, and I will tell you why: duder has yet to post one derogatory article concerning Obama. Convicted felons helping with your house payments in exchange for favors? Oh, no thanks -- we don't want to post that. When Obama gets equal time on rotten, then articles blasting the other party will be relevant.
From: 77pump [Beourne Todye]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 12:49
Studboy, go eat a bag of dicks, you whiny priss... Waaaaa...waaaaaa.....
From: gigi67 [gigi]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 13:08
Yeah, let's all move to the country, where it's safe, quiet, and clean.
From: studgerbil
[Stud]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 13:09
You're a little slow, so I will spell it out for you using small words. Sarah Palin has been in the race for a week. Daily Rotten has featured two articles blasting her. Barack Hussein Obama has been in the race for almost two years. Daily Rotten has featured zero articles blasting him. Only fucknut would find that fair and balanced.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 13:18
"..This is irrelevant, and I will tell you why: duder has yet to post one derogatory article concerning Obama. .." LOL ...aaaahh... Gee whiz... I 'm sorry Gerbil!  Isn't that what they teach ya ta say at "Frustrated Loser School"?, Right? (get it?) LOL
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 13:22
Anyway... This sarah "with EVERYTHING WRONG with her politically" person... is WAY WAY too juicy ta ignore.. Ask Peggy Noonan, fer christ sakes! I love the "Troopergate" thing! LOL ! She's a BRIDGE TA NOWHERE all right! LOL heh heh heh
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 13:27
"..I was going to post, here comes norace with the Palin jokes. Looks like I'm late .." Hey.. Go right ahead HC.. THERE's PLENTY fer all to make fun of here! This WAY WAY better than Potatoe boy! You betcha! (The rest of ya can look it up when ya get home!) ;) God ...I love the smell of burnt, idiotic political disastrous choices in the AM! LOL
From: heraclitus
[and in measures dying out]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 13:28
From: studgerbil [Stud] Date: 5-Sep-2008 13:09 You're a little slow, so I will spell it out for you using small words. Sarah Palin has been in the race for a week. Daily Rotten has featured two articles blasting her. ========= How is this article "blasting" Palin? Because it takes place in Alaska? That's just conservative paranoia. The last article about her banning books I'll give to you but I don't see how this is in any way a shot at Palin.
From: thesickthsense
[iseewhitepeople!]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 13:32
** This is irrelevant, and I will tell you why: duder has yet to post one ** derogatory article concerning Obama. Yeah, no shit duder is biased... he's a mestizo in Cali, ffs. He's probably jacking off right now to the thought of what his pathetic 3rd-world state will get if Obama gets elected. Denying that is a clear sign of complete mental incompetence, so I don't recommend anyone with complete mental incompetence say a word. That means NO words, bella!
From: jaybegood
[Sir Robin of D'Hood]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 13:49
"When authorities surrounded a converted bus housing a meth operation in Big Lake in January, a 13-year-old boy who answered the door bragged that his mom cooked the best meth in the valley, according to the troopers." The boy went on to say, "I'm proud to announce too that I have the tighest little ass you've ever fucked and my dad says I give the best head in the five county area, so if you want me to I'll make like a hoover on your weeiner there!"
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 13:57
...This is irrelevant, and I will tell you why: duder has yet to post one derogatory article concerning Obama. ... You're right, and I've submitted dozens of them. Duder is just another partisan hack, and Rotten is, at times, just another left wing propaganda site. There is no mention that the Wasilla area is also the population capital of Alaska. And the pot capital.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 14:09
"..So palin was mayor of wassup, AK. Big deal..." LOL at Vic! Of COURSE it's a BIG deal! IT's a BIG goddamn deal! When it's about ONLY "Qualifation" ya got fer yer new job! heh heh Thanks John.. I(norace) , personally .. LOVE YER VP pick! Really! Go Obama and Biden! LOL
From: 00
Date: 5-Sep-2008 14:11
Vic, did you move that wardrobe to the center, 'omo?
From: vicmasterblower
[don't mean glass, guys]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 14:15
Hey 00; hell no, didn't move it-that was an old pic and I'am sure R-man has since centered the armoire. I usually don't pay attention to such detail. And its 'mo, thank you very much. Or nancy boy if you wish! Heh. Are you a sp00k troll?
From: bgolds
Date: 5-Sep-2008 14:32
Barack Hussein Obama has been in the race for almost two years. Daily Rotten has featured zero articles blasting him. Only fucknut would find that fair and balanced. ---------- God, listen to you babies whine... I like to consider myself somewhat of arm-chair authority of Rotten.com- and I never recall anything concerning a claim of being 'Fair and Balanced'. If I'm not mistaken, the tagline is 'News You Can Not Possibly Use'. I'd think you'd be HAPPY that articles regarding Palin appear under that banner. But of course you aren't. Conservatives piss and whine more than any creature created. There IS a site that promises 'Fair and Balanced' coverage, however. You may have heard of it. You would be well served wasting your time there with Mark Foley, Larry Craig and a million Fundamental Christian Armageddonists and stop criticizing Rotten. Of the many times I've posted, I challenge you to find ONE example of me criticizing this site or the administrator.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 14:32
heh heh Thanks John.. I(norace) , personally .. LOVE YER VP pick! Really! In fact.. Let me say this about that.. Norace WOULD have ALSO ... ...picked this dame fer John mcCain if I were somehow allowed to "Sabotage" the Campaign in an kinda "Outer Limits" episode .. The only WORST choice I can think of ,would be say.. Bozo the Clown with a criminal record.. LOL
From: studgerbil
[Stud]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 14:44
BTW - I'm writing in Hillary. I had no intention of voting for McCain, although I bet on him to win, and still believe he will. I voted for Clinton, twice. I am not a Republican nutjob and I am not a Democrat nutjob. I'm an independent nutjob. But two articles in one week on one candidate is biased and only a real nutjob would deny that. At this rate, there should be at least four articles on Joe Biden, and four HUNDRED articles on both Obama and McCain. But no ...
From: sp00k
Date: 5-Sep-2008 14:52
I'll bet Obama's home town has more meth labs than the entire state of alaska. http://www.nbc5.com/targetchicago/9833626/detail.html Area Peppered With Meth Labs, Recovering Addict Says (equal time)
From: morte266
[Old and Tired]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 14:55
Umm... I hate to break it to you people, but this story is deliberately misleading. That really shouldn't be a surprise. If you look at the story's headline and content you'll see that there is nothing in it that directly relates to Wasilla. The Mat-su area.... Mat-Su narcotics unit arrested a couple at their Willow home converted bus housing a meth operation in Big Lake During a 2003 bust at a house outside Wasilla The article fails to mention one bust within the city limits of Wasilla. A mayor and city police force are limited to their city area. The only things in the article that directly mention Wasilla are State departments that aren't limited to the city. Children Services in a town take in all the calls in that area, not just the ones within city limits. Misleading and irrelevant the way it is written.
From: studgerbil
[Stud]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 15:02
Yeah, Sp00k -- but Obama was never mayor of any town. He was never Governor of any state either. In other words, he has never had any position of responsibility at all. He has been in the Senate a couple of years, gotta give him that. But he has written more memoirs than he has passed important legislation. I hate to say it, but even Reagan was more qualified than Obama, and Reagan was a dandy speaker too! The Democratic party erred by not selecting Hillary. Hillary received more popular votes in the primaries than ANY Republican candidate, and she also led Obama in popular votes until May 10th, when her campaign was essentially nullified by the position of the superdelegateas and her losing efforts to allow the popular votes in Michigan and Florida to count. Had those two states not totally fucked up, Hillary would, in fact, be the Democratic candidate for President and she would likely win in November. Obama is a bogus candidate and will lose.
From: studgerbil
[Stud]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 15:05
morte -- that is irrelevant. Wasilla draws readers. Might even boost rotten's standings in Google. The fact that the article does not tie any problems to Sarah Palin is clearly irrelevant. Dewey Defeats Truman. Thank you, drive through.
From: monkmonk
[Monk Monk]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 15:25
Since Obama's race prevents the Right from comparing him to Hitler maybe they will tell us all how he's the anti-christ. Take a look at this posting from one of SP's followers. ******** The thing about Sarah is she is God's choice. Anyone who looks for a moment can see that. How improbable is it that this person would be picked for VP,otherwise? What other rational explanation is there? She is the one prophesied to take us through the end of days, and leave the blasphemers behind. John McCain will die, and she will take us through Aramgeddon and deliver us to glory. FROM: http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/thebigblog/archives/147918.asp?source=mypi ********* Having fundamentalists in power scares me more than almost anything.
From: vicmasterblower
[don't mean glass, guys]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 15:38
O yea, monk, I hear you. Those funies gotta go. '..What other rational explanation is there?..' That is the trouble here-there IS no rational explanation. There is not even any explanation. The person quoted lives in a fantasy world.
From: gigi67 [gigi]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 16:21
Screw Obama, Biden, McCain, AND Palin. Vote Bob Barr. He's black, has political experience, and as far as I know, nobody in his family is currently knocked up or trying to shoot a moose.
From: bgolds
Date: 5-Sep-2008 16:21
From: sp00k Date: 5-Sep-2008 14:52 I'll bet Obama's home town has more meth labs than the entire state of alaska. http://www.nbc5.com/targetchicago/9833626/detail.html Area Peppered With Meth Labs, Recovering Addict Says (equal time) --------------- That makes sense when you consider that Chicago has more PEOPLE than the entire state of Alaska.
From: other [unclassified]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 17:54
my stomach gurgled..I passed a moose..emptied out the room.
From: bukweat [otay]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 18:26
I wondered why biden didn't do well in the primaries,as he was my choice.Obama then picks biden for his running mateat the dnc. I believe it's a given obama will be assassinated. Biden becomes president.Ain't politics something else? Well,unless McCain wins.
From: studgerbil
[Stud]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 18:35
The facts is that Sarah Palin has five children from five different fathers. In fact, I personally sired the little retarded baby.
From: azdollarbill [Jim Jones]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 18:37
Quote:"This is irrelevant, and I will tell you why: duder has yet to post one derogatory article concerning Obama." It's impossible to dig up dirt on someone who is perfect, as Obama is. That's why, with the exception of that house business, there has been nothing...nada...zilch. Even the house business was more on who he bought it from, then on what happened. If someone offered you a free yard, wouldn't you take it? Damn right you would! So anyway that is water under the bridge, well, maybe. You have to believe that if McCain brings it up, that the Keating Five will also be revived.
From: azdollarbill [Jim Jones]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 19:16
Quote:"Vote Bob Barr. He's black" The only thing black about Bob Barr is maybe his heart. He is as white as the driven snow, lol.
From: static
[arking quotes]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 19:33
Conservatives piss and whine more than any creature created. *** Bgold I will not piss or whine, but you should know that a hot, conservative women, will swing the election to McCain. You left wing freaks then can hob my nob. I can't even get Duder to accept articles from Fox news. I'm just say-in.
From: wulfgarthewhite [Black to White]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 19:36
From: studgerbil [Stud] Date: 5-Sep-2008 18:35 The facts is that Sarah Palin has five children from five different fathers. In fact, I personally sired the little retarded baby. _____________________________________________________________ All right. I could accept that last part anyway.
From: static
[arking quotes]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 19:50
Sarah loves her husband, this breaks feminist theocracy. The more you lefty kinda folk want to piss on her the more I think you may be the right choice for the vice president. Hope she field dresses a moose for all to see. As a hunter, I love any women that relates to me. Hell, she is more of a man than Barry or Joe.
From: wulfgarthewhite [Black to White]
Date: 5-Sep-2008 20:06
Remember all - None of your Presidential votes count. Till we get rid of the Electoral College YOUR vote for president means NOTHING. If we tried to force this kind of fraudulent system on Iraq the UN, NATO, even the Chinese would call us crooks. And they'd be right.
From: studgerbil
[Stud]
Date: 6-Sep-2008 03:51
it gets worse, wulfgar. even the primary votes didin't count, for Hillary. Hillary was leading ini popular votes in the primaries through May. She fell far enough behind in delegates that she had to quit, and after that, people just started voting for Obama because Hillary was no longer in the running. Keep in mind that the voters in Michigan and Florida are not to blame for their party's total fuck up. They are just voters, like you and me. But their votes will count in November, and a lot of them will vote for McCain. Obama has as much in common with the "working man and woman" as Ted Kennedy does. McCain, at least, has worked an honest day or two in his life. He wasn't a POW just to get a photo op.
From: auldorun [Auldorun]
Date: 6-Sep-2008 05:19
"You're right, and I've submitted dozens of them. Duder is just another partisan hack, and Rotten is, at times, just another left wing propaganda site." Then why dont you fuck off?
From: patsystonecheers
[Patsy Stone]
Date: 6-Sep-2008 06:29
 Nothing to see here, move along. Move! Move! You see nothing! PS: Do not comment on my fabricated accent that sounds like I just got off the boat. Do not comment that I was in the United States since I was 6 years old and thus can't possibly have an accent that thick. Move along and watch your baseball game like good boys and girls.
From: patsystonecheers
[Patsy Stone]
Date: 6-Sep-2008 07:49
Palin is a Zionist's wet dream. Laugh at me now, but when she takes office after McCain flatlines, we will be in a war on every side in the mideast, all for Israel. Palin has modeled herself after Esther in the bible. "...the story of Esther, a beauty queen who became a real one, gaining the king’s ear to avert the slaughter of the Jews and vanquish their enemies. When Esther is called to serve, God grants her a strength she never knew she had." (NYTimes) As a Christian Funddie, she believes Israel was given to the Jews by God himself. Does anyone really think McCain "picked" her. He doesn't even know her. It doesn't matter. Alaska will be opened to new pipelines which will line the pockets of the oil companies for the next 50 years or more and the Zionists will cement their place as the rulers of the mideast. All those fools that think their vote counts cause a candidate made their rounds at the local senior citizen center or union hall or burger joint, and shook hands and high-fived the candidates, guess what? you are just a prop on a stage. You don't matter. The agenda is set in Davos, Switzerland, by the Trilateral Commission.
From: gigi67 [gigi]
Date: 6-Sep-2008 08:42
"The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who COUNT the votes decide everything." One of my favorite quotes, along with "Those who refuse to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it."
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 6-Sep-2008 09:05
"..Palin is a Zionist's wet dream. Laugh at me now,.." Hey Patsy. I guess i'll laugh at ya now! ;) Do ya really believe all that Jewish zion crap horseshit ya just posted? Or are ya kiddin me? :0 I thought you had a registered brain! PS , palin's still a religious nitwit, ya did get that one part right! heh heh heh
From: mustafakakka
[MustaffaKakka]
Date: 6-Sep-2008 09:32
Hey now, forget about your own presidential race for a moment and look and see who the Pakistanis have elected to be their prez. A guy who was declared (by two doctors) to be mentally incapable of standing trial a year ago and when last in a position of power, was known as "Mr. Ten percent." Here's the nukes button Mr. Zardari, have fun.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 6-Sep-2008 09:41
"..Obama has as much in common with the "working man and woman" as Ted Kennedy does.." Are yer kiddin me Gerbil? Every SINGLE Goddamn one of them (Rich)Pols (including Obama) is more different from YOU and ME. These fucks(Including Obama) are the "Privileged ones" The fucking GODDAMN power elite.. Let me sound a little more paranoid fer ya a moment.. When Obama becomes President,PLEASE.. .. don't shit yer pants. It just means the "Rulers" are opening up their "equal opportunity" doors fer the first time in a great while.. Obama will "change" some shit , probably. He'll fuck up other shit, no doubt. But I(norace) have NO ILLUSIONS as to WHERE the real POWER in this great country of our most likely lies! :0 The rest of us slobs just get ta "watch".
From: selfcleaning [buttocks]
Date: 6-Sep-2008 09:55
Ah, methamphetamine, my fav drug of all time. Glad to be off that shit. Over 11 1/2 years clean & sober. Hey-now!
From: bukweat [otay]
Date: 6-Sep-2008 11:15
 From: patsystonecheers [Patsy Stone] Date: 6-Sep-2008 07:49 Palin is a Zionist's wet dream. Laugh at me now, but when she takes office after McCain flatlines, we will be in a war on every side in the mideast, all for Israel. Palin has modeled herself after Esther in the bible. "...the story ********** Patsy,I don't what yer smokin but I want some.
From: snowwhite [SnowWhite]
Date: 6-Sep-2008 13:34
From: studgerbil [Stud] Date: 5-Sep-2008 18:35 The facts is that Sarah Palin has five children from five different fathers. In fact, I personally sired the little retarded baby. --------------------------------------------------- Then you must have been balling Bristol, cuz it's tard. Glad to hear that, cuz it lets her daddy off the hook. BTW, I have a photo of 18 year old Sarah with her hair in pig tails cubing up a moose that she personally shot. Blood, gore, pig tails, and the cutest full toothed smile all in one picture!
From: snowwhite [SnowWhite]
Date: 6-Sep-2008 18:21
Sarah Palin's just another pretty ass. I'd hit it and the flip it and hit it again.
From: hippityhopp
[bunny meat is good!]
Date: 6-Sep-2008 21:40
When authorities surrounded a converted bus housing a meth operation in Big Lake in January, a 13-year-old boy who answered the door bragged that his mom cooked the best meth in the valley, according to the troopers. **** Aw, ain't it cute he's proud of his mommy's meth-making prowess. Guess it ain't the same as me bragging about my mom's chocolate chip cookies though...
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 06:14
No Loma; you whining communist; no decedent lacivious voyourism for you....get on with the construction of the portable showers. They shall be sorely needed.
From: wiegehtesdir [Jimmy Jingo]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 09:13
While meth sucks and makes it a pain in the ass for me to buy my beloved Sudafeds that allow me to sleep in "Ragweed Season", we have more rotten problems coming down the pike. Enjoying the 6.1% unemployment? Or a shitty job that is now even shittier since your doing the work once done by 2 people? The S&L bailout will be considered a baby shower compared to the bailout of Fannie & Freddie Mac. The two mortgage companies own or guarantee almost half the nation's $12 trillion in outstanding home mortgage debt. The housing sector is having its deepest slump since the Great Depression. We're officially fucked now! Enjoy the rotten-ness!
From: abluecommunist
[Red is for republicans, dammit!]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 10:03
Sad to say, Patsy's 100% right on this one. Ever notice there are a few things that 'aren't allowed' in any political discussion? And if you think or feel any of these things you are 'committing political suicide'? Why were 5 Israelis caught filming and celebrating the 9/11 attacks? What's with the appearance on an Israeli talk show of two of those individuals who claim to have been 'sent there' to film the attacks as they happened. So who sent them? The USS Liberty was attacked outright by Israel. Why? Despite repeated incidents of Israeli spying on US interests, including classified military intelligence and nuclear technology, why is it that if you accuse Israel of spying on us and stealing our technology you are accused of being a closet Nazi? Why can't politicians get into influential offices without making nice with AIPAC? Why does 'Anti-Israel' = 'Anti-Semitic'? Why is there an Israeli dual-national in charge of DHS? What has Israel done for us lately? I know I have the reputation of a crank, but I think these are perfectly valid questions.
From: abluecommunist
[Red is for republicans, dammit!]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 10:13
If half our mortgage debt is now being passed on to the taxpayers, how are we supposed to pay this shit off? Especially with Federal Reserve money...the greenback is in the flipping toilet and is still circling. Interest upon debt upon fees upon fines upon interest upon late fees. Fuck banks. Fuck creditors. THIS is why Jesus got pissed at moneychangers. This is why usury is supposed to be outlawed. This is why Christianity and Islam have explicit laws against interest. Its vampirism and its parasitic. But everyone accepts it as normal!
From: thesickthsense
[iseewhitepeople!]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 11:57
blue Don't you wish you could be young again, ignorant again? It kills because there's not a damn thing that we can do about it. I'd honestly rather not know... just be blissful, watch my tv, buy my gas, and consume with glee.
From: androloma
[the Manchurian Centurion]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 13:10
According to Toynbee, and I agree, the Jews were not entitled by any means to get their homeland back, because it was the Romans who took it away and none of us are certainly to blame. If expressing anti-Zionism is verboten, and anti-Arabism isn't, then we have a biased media. The media isn't state-run, the state seems to be media-run. Culturalocracy will present a dynamic demographic in 50 years when the voting majority professes catholicism over protestantism. Then there be changes to foreign affairs. At least that's what my crystal ball tells me, and it's never right. That's what I get for buying used. How aboot my neologism, huh? Commie, daredevil? I'll give you a political argument that'll curl your pubies. Communist, no. Realist, yes. As communistic as Iommi. Remember your roots, daredevil.
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 13:44
...It's impossible to dig up dirt on someone who is perfect, as Obama is. ... ROFL, now that's the whopper of all your lies. Frank Marshall Davis
From: bungmunch
[muncher of bung]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 13:52
From: abluecommunist [Red is for republicans, dammit!] Date: 7-Sep-2008 10:03 Sad to say, Patsy's 100% right on this one. Ever notice there are a few things that 'aren't allowed' in any political discussion? And if you think or feel any of these things you are 'committing political suicide'? Why were 5 Israelis caught filming and celebrating the 9/11 attacks? What's with the appearance on an Israeli talk show of two of those individuals who claim to have been 'sent there' to film the attacks as they happened. So who sent them? The USS Liberty was attacked outright by Israel. Why? Despite repeated incidents of Israeli spying on US interests, including classified military intelligence and nuclear technology, why is it that if you accuse Israel of spying on us and stealing our technology you are accused of being a closet Nazi? Why can't politicians get into influential offices without making nice with AIPAC? Why does 'Anti-Israel' = 'Anti-Semitic'? Why is there an Israeli dual-national in charge of DHS? What has Israel done for us lately? I know I have the reputation of a crank, but I think these are perfectly valid questions. -------------------------- Ableblue- LBJ was aware of the attack in real time. when pressed to call it off, he said, " I want that Goddamned boat on the bottom!" we are all zionist slaves 911 was an inside job
From: abluecommunist
[Red is for republicans, dammit!]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 14:03
Andro: We absolutely have a biased media. It is a very narrow spectrum of thought that is 'allowed' to be heard by the 'general public'. Viewpoints that might be considered unacceptable are generally kept away from mass public consumption, when they cannot, they are dismissed as crazy, lunatic fringe, anti-Semite, against the troops, etc.
From: crapola
[Quit_Bitchin]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 14:24
From: bgolds Date: 5-Sep-2008 14:32 God, listen to you babies whine... I like to consider myself somewhat of arm-chair authority of Rotten.com- and I never recall anything concerning a claim of being 'Fair and Balanced'. ### The only things anyone can consider you an authority on is f@ggotry, idiocy and bending the facts to fit your ridiculous theories. #### But of course you aren't. Conservatives piss and whine more than any creature created. There IS a site that promises 'Fair and Balanced' coverage, however. You may have heard of it. You would be well served wasting your time there with Mark Foley, Larry Craig and a million Fundamental Christian Armageddonists and stop criticizing Rotten. Of the many times I've posted, I challenge you to find ONE example of me criticizing this site or the administrator. #### Oh yes you fucknut libtards were certainly quiet during any R administration. Rolls eyes. Yes the media is biased. Unfortunately, It is bias towards making money instead of presenting the public with the whole truth. And nohting sells like dirty laundry spiced with Bullshit.
From: crapola
[Quit_Bitchin]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 14:36
Now you fuck nuts are blaming Palin for the meth labs? How she made it a priority to shut them down. ...the quote from the NY Times is garbage patsy. Cripes! Funny on one hand you libtards accuse the NYT as a tool of the Jews then you are accrediting it as the absolute authority it prints up any vomit that parallels you thought. Gawd, how do you live with yourselves. Your post makes me want to hit you in the head with a bat even if you are good looking.
From: patsystonecheers
[Patsy Stone]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 15:31
<Why is there an Israeli dual-national in charge of DHS? > Commie, in addition, why is it verboten to question why senators, congressmen, judges, and of course presidential VP candidates (Lieberman) to have dual citizenship? If you, me, or anyone else had dual citizenship with say France, Brazil, Lebanon, etc., we will chopped down as "unamerican" and not looking out for the interest of USA. Lieberman, a former candidate, has given his allegiance to the State of Israel and no one says anything about it. Hmmm.
From: crapola
[Quit_Bitchin]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 18:06
So who are we not allowed to criticize ABC? It would appear that the only ones that are believed above reproach are the elite liberals. The elite rep are rich and don't care. So tell me. Give us all names. Teach us oh great wise and stoned sage who is so terrified of the world that he stones himself into a stupor.
From: elfboy
[blinky7]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 18:11
OK, I lied, one more post. Poop! Poop! Poop! Poop! Poo-poo poopy! But enough about Obama, ok, then. Poop! (Sorry, couldn't resist) I want to change my name to "Nick McCoy" and buy a fedora..
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 18:15
"...PS: The best way to determine who runs a society is by looking at those who you are not allowed to criticize..." ;) Hey Blue. Looks ta me(Norace)like you and Patsy and the bungtroll are "allowed" ta "criticize" the secret , evil and WORLD powerful.. .."Zionists" ALL yer want here on this forum, fer one example! Plus I notice , that the INTERNET /Books/newsletters, etc/ (not to mention Hundreds, if not, THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of WORLDWIDE ORGANIZATIONS just .. MADE and how's ONLY reason fer existence is ... to "tell the truth" to the "rest of us fools"... heh heh heh Sorry Blue, but I (norace) thinks all that "jew conspiracy" crap is a lotta horseshit. No offense,to ya personally .. though! OK?
From: thesickthsense
[iseewhitepeople!]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 18:34
** Sorry Blue, but I (norace) ** thinks all that "jew conspiracy" crap ** is a lotta horseshit. fucknut, I(tss) thinks a perfect sign of ignorance,, hehe is the lack of hatred you know, deficit of jews. if you(fucknut) knew anything about jews and the past, what they always do you'd know things things that persist things that foster those things fucknut hehe are why people hate there's only one 'race' I hate more than blacks and that is the jews he he he
From: thesickthsense
[iseewhitepeople!]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 18:51
"I remember getting a call from the, ah... fire department commander.. telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire And I said, you know, we've had such a TERRIBLE loss of life maybe the responsible thing to do is... is PULL it uhhhhh and they made that DECISION to pull and then we watched the building.. collapse"  I can't fathom how, even in my most sympathetic moments... that someone can be so fucking naive and simple that they actually believe #7 fell, not from being pulled by demolition folks, but from a tiny fire. Jesus fucking Christ. Parts of the building didn't collapse, the face didn't fall off, the sides didn't cave in. The WHOLE FUCKING BUILDING collapsed, all at once... from a tiny fire. Duhhhhhhhhh.
From: snowwhite [SnowWhite]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 19:06
From: thesickthsense [iseewhitepeople!] Date: 7-Sep-2008 18:51 The WHOLE FUCKING BUILDING collapsed, all at once... from a tiny fire. Duhhhhhhhhh. ----------------------------------------------------- You don't suppose that there was a design issue in all the World Trade buildings that made them more likely to totally fail when one part was damaged? You don['t suppose that having two of the biggest buildings in the world collapse nearby a bit earlier might have had a hand in it too? Is it easier to believe in the Easter Bunnie/Santa Claus conspiracy theory than a physical failure? Buildings away from fault areas are designed to hold about 15 pounds per square foot of static load. Once that load becomes dynamic or shifted, then anything can happen and will.
From: thesickthsense
[iseewhitepeople!]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 19:24
** You don't suppose that there was a design issue in all the World Trade ** buildings that made them more likely to totally fail when one part was ** damaged? Even if that scenario was possible, which it ain't... the same exact 'part' would have to have sustained the same exact damage in all three fucking buildings. ** You don['t suppose that having two of the biggest buildings in the world ** collapse nearby a bit earlier might have had a hand in it too? How many other buildings collapsed? NONE How much 'damage' did #7 take from the tower collapse? (virtually NONE) ** Is it easier to believe in the Easter Bunnie/Santa Claus conspiracy ** theory than a physical failure? lol, a fucking physical failure? You can't be that fucking stupid! ** Buildings away from fault areas are designed to hold about 15 pounds per ** square foot of static load. Once that load becomes dynamic or shifted, ** then anything can happen and will. Steel structures don't DISINTEGRATE. Act like you know something, I don't give a shit... but at least have common fucking sense. The buildings turned to dust, the windows the computers the desks the steel beams the people the wiring the water pipes the toilets the.... on and fucking on. They wouldn't vaporize if the buildings simply fell, and you know it. It would have been a twisted MOUNTAIN of massive chunks of metal and concrete.
From: bgolds
Date: 7-Sep-2008 19:27
The #1 reason I don't believe 9-11 was an inside job was the lackluster performance of its star:  He sat there like a mannequin for something like 20 minutes in front of a grade-school class. If it was pre-planned, it would have looked more like this:  Super-commander-guy would have leapt into action and at least APPEAR to be in control.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 19:54
"...Is it easier to believe in the Easter Bunnie/Santa Claus conspiracy theory than a physical failure? .." Yep! right toady? LOL Ps.. Take a look around ya bozo the VAST majority sane people know yer looney "theories" are horseshit. It's just ain't me (norace),, That's why ..Yer called the "lunatic fringe" .. ..nitwit! And yer ...Coo coo fer cocopuffs. heh heh heh
From: crapola
[Quit_Bitchin]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 20:14
Steel structures don't DISINTEGRATE. Act like you know something, I don't give a shit... but at least have common fucking sense. The buildings turned to dust, the windows the computers the desks the steel beams the people the wiring the water pipes the toilets the.... on and fucking on. They wouldn't vaporize if the buildings simply fell, and you know it. It would have been a twisted MOUNTAIN of massive chunks of metal and concrete. ### Holy Shit asshat. Wow. You need to either finish middle school, take your head out of your ass, sober up, stop being a douche or all the previous. You need to understand some physics behind the collapse. Steel has a fantastic load bearing capability that is why we use it. But when the steel is heated it can and will lose it's great load bearing properties in very measured amounts -- corresponding to the heat that it is brought to. For example, at only 80% of it's melting temperature, steel i believe melts at around 2200 degrees Fahrenheit which would be 1760 degrees it loses about 80% it's strength. Now I do not know the measure of the temperature of the fire but, hypothetically that a jet fuel fire fanned by what is it 12 elevator shafts can reach say only 60% of melting temperature. That number is 1320 which is entirely possible, in fact I am willing to bet that the temperature of the fire was much higher. House fires can reach a temperature, with the right conditions and it is not at all rare to reach a temperature of about 1500 F with just normal household items as the fuel. So let's say the steel beams, the structure that the entire building's massive weight was being supported on, was at only at a rate of 50% failure. Don't forget that steel is an excellent conductor. Don't forget that the load the steel beams had to carry did not diminish but as the steel conducted more heat throughout the skeleton of the building eventually the load was too much. OK? Stop listening to the fat, obnoxious, irritating, idiot lesbian, Rosie. She may or may not be a great actress, well she does play the part of a miserable, fat dyxe very well. But to me that is not acting. As far as where the building went? You have got to be kidding. The foundation for a structure like that is something like a couple of hundred feet deep. Anybody know what the approximate weight of the building was? I don't but I am willing to bet that nearly all of the compressible material in the building, insulation, computers, desks, carpets, windows, and people where compacted. I cant believe that you still don't understand basic structural physics. Wow. Get off the bong.
From: crapola
[Quit_Bitchin]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 20:23
funny bgolds you and the rest of the homosexual, drug using segment of anti society types believe the president should have done what. What was he supposed to do? What would you do? Get up and leave the kids? Here is the situation. you don't know what is going on except that a plane flew into a building. You dont know if it is an attack, you don't know shit. You have people already working on the situation. So what are you supposed to do? Unlike the previous administration to lie about a liaison and then purger himself in court. You tell me which is more of an evil action. Which one had to be premeditated? Or how about the asshat that tried to keep the white house when exposed that he took LARGE sums of money from a foreign totalitarian government to finance his campaign. Holy shit queer boy Kill yourself. Go to a gay club, take some drugs, pick up some gay boy, get AIDS and then die you fucktard.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 20:45
(sighs, shakes head) Listen tss... ..I (norace) HAVE taken a very close "look " at most of the 911 conspiracy theories coming out since 9-12-01 (And a shitload of differnt ones to be sure! ) After careful review.. My MAIN "problem" with a "Conspiracy" here is.. Let's face it.. I don't care WHO yer are... Jew, arab, Government conspiracy, aliens, etc... NOBODY, and I mean nobody... .. is .. "smart" enough, "clever" enough and/or has a "realistic enough reason" ta "pull it off". (An INCREDIBLY COMPLEX "TOP SECRET operation) INVOLVING VAST amounts of social and infrastructural power politics ..a kind of IMMENSE "cooperation" between parties that , frankly, I (norace) find rather RIDICULOUS and most improbable! At least in the REAL WORLD. ;) . I believe that olde "oscar razer blade deal" is most appropriate here.
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 20:57
Any Jew can easily get Israeli citizenship. Israel wants to stay majority Jewish, That means they're willing to give citizenship to most any Jew in the world. If you show up, you're offered citizenship. Where did the WTC buildings go?  Right here. EVERYTHING melts. Even diamonds melt, if they get hot enough.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 21:12
"..Where did the WTC buildings go? .." WTF do ya mean Auldy? You mean a US missile frigate? The ocean? I thought a lot of the Twin Towers powered debris actually went into many, many people's lungs causing a wide range of long and short term health problems... "..Any Jew can easily get Israeli citizenship. Israel wants to stay majority Jewish, That means they're willing to give citizenship to most any Jew in the world. If you show up, you're offered citizenship..." LOL at Audy.. Ps...I wonder what's so strange about a small country threatened from all sides from very HOSTILE nations and non national entities wanting to encourage Immigration(more citizen soldiers, fer one example) to it's shores? You make it sound..so.. so... dirty.. . ;) LOL
From: thesickthsense
[iseewhitepeople!]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 21:32
Here we go again with "you need to learn a little physics" bullshit talk. I'm not a physicist, and I'm not trying to be. This situation isn't complex enough to warrant anything beyond common sense. It's massive steel beams crapola. On one hand, you're talking about how big the building is, how large its foundation must have been, blah blah... then you totally counter your own logic by claiming that a plane hitting a building that fucking tall (110 stories ffs!) somehow heated beams at least 70 stories down sufficiently for them to disintegrate? I mean... that's what you're saying... right? And I quote: ** "So let's say the steel beams, the structure that the entire building's ** massive weight was being supported on, was at only at a rate of 50% failure." And you're saying this while trying to carry your pathetic "I'm smarter than you" attitude, ain't ya smartass? Parts of the planes hit, at the lowest, on the 77th floor. The buildings are 110 stories, genius. The 'entire building' you speak of was greater than 2/3rds under the planes, and completely fucking cool to the touch. If they conducted heat like you want to portray, they'd be superconducting, dumbfuck... they'd melt before the heat had time to radiate 70 stories down you fucking idiot bastard twat dipshit cunt fuck. You're an IDIOT if you believe the heat was sufficient to compromise the beams where the planes hit, let alone 70+ fucking stories down.
From: thesickthsense
[iseewhitepeople!]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 21:41
Expand and elaborate on your theory you fucking idiot bastard. Try to recoup your losses. Act like you didn't mean that... go on, cause I'll counter it NOW, before you even have time to fucking make up a fix. You're going to say the steel was heated where the planes hit, and that when you said "entire building's weight" you meant to say the weight of the building that was above the planes. It still doesn't work, jackass. If the beams were weakened enough for them to collapse, they wouldn't superheat the underside as they fell. That's the only way your 'new' theory will work. Why? Because if the steel wasn't superheated almost instan-fucking-taneously while the top came down, the fucking top would experience something called RESISTANCE and it wouldn't freefall, dumbass. God damn short bus people!
From: bgolds
Date: 7-Sep-2008 22:29
Go easy on the crapola kid. He has dysmorphic gender disorder. I've never seen a guy who can turn absolutely ANY discussion into talk about 'queers'. -even a 9-11 conspiracy argument! Un-freaking-believable. I hope when his homo-pedophile career as a D.A.R.E officer is featured here on rotten, they at least identify him as Crapola.
From: marymary
[scary mary]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 22:38
"...INVOLVING VAST amounts of social and infrastructural power politics ..a kind of IMMENSE "cooperation" between parties that , frankly, I (norace) find rather RIDICULOUS and most improbable!" Vast amounts?? Dear god the number of stupid people in this world somehow continues to surprise and depress me. There are only a select, very few people running things in this world. Stop looking a the tiny wee lil puzzle pieces you twats. Step back, waaay back and try to wrap ya itty bitty brains around the BIG PICTURE. Hint.. your going to need to step far enough back, and actually open a few books, and look into history. This shit didn't start in the last few years, or decades, not even in our lifetimes. Get a clue you brain dead zombie retards. Or not, whatever..
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 7-Sep-2008 23:28
"...I'm not a physicist, and I'm not trying to be..." LOL at tss.. Nothin like gettin yer "qualificasuns" outta the way, first before ya start a ridiculous "argument" that's not only "conspiracy paranoid" ..but ..quite contrary (get it? ;) ) .. to common sense.. LOL nite.. nite.. nitwit(tss)!
From: ksmyaz [Ky Richards]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 00:41
bgolds: When you say the Prez "didn't know what was going on,so why leave the kids?" here's a fact- the aide seen in the newsfilm whispering in his ear was saying,"Mr.President, AMERICA IS UNDER ATTACK!" In my sometimes lucid opinion, he should have IMMEDIATELY stood up, said "Thank you for letting me spend time with you today, but an important matter has come up that needs my attention right away- it's part of what I do as President!" (or whatever)...and HAULED ASS! Why? Uh, golly...let me think...how about: A President should remember that the worst "attack" (given no further info in the moment) possible is NUCLEAR- and in the seven minutes he sat there looking like a retard, a missile could travel hundreds of miles, or more. Betcha the doofus thinks the soldier that always travels with him carrying the case containing our nuclear codes, (the"football") really IS toting a pigskin! Love & Fuzzy Bunnies to All!
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 00:51
From: patsystonecheers [Patsy Stone] Date: 7-Sep-2008 15:31 <Why is there an Israeli dual-national in charge of DHS? > Commie, in addition, why is it verboten to question why senators, congressmen, judges, and of course presidential VP candidates (Lieberman) to have dual citizenship? If you, me, or anyone else had dual citizenship with say France, Brazil, Lebanon, etc., we will chopped down as "unamerican" and not looking out for the interest of USA. Lieberman, a former candidate, has given his allegiance to the State of Israel and no one says anything about it. Hmmm. ------------------- Anyone care to adresses that one? I know; UN P.C! (prominet jews in the business , political and media establishment haven't skewed American foreign policy in the mid-east toward a certain ideeology?) Aww Shucks!
From: erethism [i suspect]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 01:06
looks like in second grade the alaska pta will have more cases of meth mouth than they know what to do with
From: studgerbil
[Stud]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 03:50
Nixon always hired Germans for key positions. Bush hired an Israeli because who understands national security better than an Israeli? Israel is a tiny nation that is completely surrounded by people that want to kill every Jew in the world; Israel is outnumbered by its sworn enemies by a about 1000:1. Yet, Israel remains the only true democracy in the region and hasthe most functional economy in the region as well. Israel has survived against unprecedented odds in the face of an overwhelming enemy for over 60 years. Why the hell NOT hire an Israeli to head Homeland Security. We could use a few dozen more in the CIA and FBI as well.
From: studgerbil
[Stud]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 04:02
And before the anti-Semetic retards start babbling, here are a few easily checked facts: World Jewish population: 12 million World Muslim population: 1.6 billion Israel population: 7 million Egypt: 79 million Turkey: 70 million Iran: 69 million Sudan: 41 million Morocco: 33 million Algeris: 33 million Saudi Arabia: 27 million Iraq: 27 million Yemen: 21 million Syria: 19 million Tunisia: 10 million Libya: 6 million Jordan: 5 million Lebanon: 4 million West Bank/Gaza: 4 million (Arab population only) Yeah -- I can see where someone who is mentally retarded would consider Israel a huge threat.
From: thesickthsense
[iseewhitepeople!]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 04:33
Well said gerbil! I don't know about anyone else.... but you sure sold me. I mean, really! Everybody knows it's not the money or influence you have, it's not the number of institutions, the domination of media, etc... that makes you strong. Nope, it's how many of you there are! That's why minorities (about 85% of humanity) control the world! And white people are so powerless! (dumbass)
From: studgerbil
[Stud]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 04:47
So you hate Jews because they are smarter, harder-working and more successful than Muslims? That makes perfect sense to me. You are a loser who cannot hold a job and are desperately looking for someone to blame other than yourself. So, it's gotta be the Blacks or the Jews or the CIA or whatever. Good job, loser. Get together with all your loser friends and burn a few crosses. That'll make you feel like a winner.
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 05:03
I can't get enough of them minorities in the basement actually. They are like rabbits.....and beware the bunny! I've driven them overground to weed my garden. A quick toss of lagamorphic bonce and 'Rex' the putative king of rabbits found himself in Vallhallah! With 72 virgin buns.................oh yeahhhhhhhh!
From: patsystonecheers
[Patsy Stone]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 07:07
<How many other buildings collapsed? NONE How much 'damage' did #7 take from the tower collapse? (virtually NONE) > TSS, these are the facts: 1 - #7 had no damage whatsoever to its exterior shell. Home to Giuliani's Secret Communications Center  2- Next door to #7 is the New York Telephone Building built in 1930. Falling beams sliced through the exterior. It has been repaired using almost exact brick color. (It's the building on the lower left hand side of photo)  3 - World Financial Center, home to American Express and Merrill Lynch. Sustained heavy damage yet was repaired.  4- Deutsche Bank Building. Still standing. In process of demolition.  All buildings surrounding the WTC took damage yet none collapsed. All were repaired with the exception of Deutsche Bank (yet it is still standing). #7 took on no damage yet completely imploded two days later. All buildings ranged in years from the 1930s to the 1970s to the 1990s. I would like to know why some people think it is not odd that a building that did not take any hits collapsed while buildings that took on damage are still standing?
From: other [unclassified]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 08:47
crappy materials in the 70s. I built a trailer out of perlin trusses and had to cut ONE 9/16inch wire. The whole thing collapsed until I welded on a plate to hold the fender on. One wire, truss goes. One truss, zipper effect, floor goes. Chain reaction. My strength-of-materials prof always argued 'build it to the limit-save money'. I got to talk to him after 9/11 and asked "what now?". Never occupy a car or building until you know what it's made of. Could be foo-foo design, beware.
From: abluecommunist
[Red is for republicans, dammit!]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 08:49
Patsy, it's simple. People believe what the TV experts tell them. It's all rather childlike in it's blind acceptance of something so bogus and huge that it must be real, because the lie is just too massive to comprehend. Crapola, you can kindly fuck off and die if you think that because my version of Prozac comes in a water pipe my judgments are less valid than judgments your televised brainwashing allows you to come up with. Besides, if all the fires were 70+ stories up, that's at least 750-800 feet of steel and concrete that would have to have had near uniform heating and simultaneous failure for a building like that to disintegrate into dust. Steel is a poor uniform conductor of heat, you get hot spots the closer to the heat source you get. If there was 700 feet of steel between you and even a 2000 degree fire, you probably couldn't feel any heat at all in the steel. You probably wouldn't even notice any perceptible heating of the metal until you got within 50 feet or less. Yet the metal all through the buildings just collapsed perfectly because of 'uniform heating' and 'total structural failure'? I don't know what happened that day, but I do know what didn't happen. Norace, you are referring to Occam's Razor, which means the simplest explanation is likely the best one. While "Terrorists did it!" is the 'easiest' to swallow, my mother gave me better advice when attempting to discern what a bunch of criminals are up to: "Follow the money." And that being said, my Occam's razor explanation for who was responsible for 9/11 is "Whomever profited most is likely responsible." http://benfrank.net/patriots/news/national/pentagon_missing_trillions http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/silverstein.html http://opencrs.com/document/RL33110/2007-03-14%2000:00:00 While Enron wasn't directly part of 9/11, the same kind of corporate looting by friends and business associates of the current administration is difficult to dismiss, $60 billion from energy customers funneled right into the pockets of those in power. Not to mention Cheney's Haliburton stock and the disastrous results of their 'cost-plus' spending policies in Iraq and elsewhere. Watch 'Iraq for Sale' and learn how the real criminals steal money. 9/11 is just one more method of conning us out of our money and freedom. Terrorists didn't make hundreds of billions off the attacks, you know.
From: azdollarbill [Jim Jones]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 10:25
Quote:"LBJ was aware of the attack in real time. when pressed to call it off, he said, " I want that Goddamned boat on the bottom!" LBJ may have been a lot of things, but one thing he wasn't was stupid. Do you really believe that he would have condoned the attack on the USS Liberty, by the Israeli air force, once the cat was out of the bag? On the Freddie/Fannie bailout, it's a funny thing, how the Right Wing always preaches self reliance, and decries government handouts, except when it comes to big business. Ever notice how, when the Republican administrations fuck up the economy, that it is they who bail out big business. It was Ford who bailed out Chrysler, and it was Bush the First who bailed out the savings and loan industry, and it is Bush the Second who is bailing out not only the banks, financial industry, and Fannie/Freddie, but also sticking us with the bill. A comparison between McCain & Obama, regarding their tax plans. McCain's would give the average tax payer $1400 a year, and increase the deficit. Obama's would give the average tax payer $2100 a year, and be paid for by increasing taxes on the rich(defined as those making $200,000($250,000, couples). Why is this thread even talking about Meth in Alaska...who gives a shit? It's politics Duder, that's what we are talking about.
From: thesickthsense
[iseewhitepeople!]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 10:43
Nice post patsy. You'll love this:  Notice how #7 is buffered from both of the towers' (#1 and #2) debris by buildings #5 and #6... and is across Vessey St even. (LOL) They're hilariously blind, ain't they? ** So you hate Jews because they are smarter, harder-working ** and more successful than Muslims? I don't hate anything for ways in which it is superior.
From: azdollarbill [Jim Jones]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 11:39
In re WTC, consider that no where else in the world has a fire caused a sky scraper to collapse. So, even if you don't believe in the conspiracy theories, the fact that the buildings collapsed, when everything in science says that they should not have fallen, should give you pause. The theory that the buildings came down via controlled demolition makes sense to me, especially considering the way they fell, nice and neat, in a big pile, just like when they do a CD. Don't forget the firemen who heard explosions, and lived to tell about it. This was on the lower floors, and no where near the fire. What was that all about, if not the CD? Logic tells me that if they did fall, that they would have fallen over, not straight down, because the entire building would not have reached critical stress at exactly the same time, but somehow it did. Again, only a CD would explain that.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 11:58
"..I would like to know why some people think it is not odd that a building that did not take any hits collapsed while buildings that took on damage are still standing? .." I guess I gotta step back here Patsy and take a DEEEEEEEEEP breath. Wooah! Again, LET's must go back to.. ...WHY and more importantly.. .. HOW? Why is this sooooooooo complicated ? (yer so called "plot")? One reason I(norace) see readily apparent is .. .. that "you" conspiracy theorists usually have way too many "people" involved. You need folks to"coordinate" keeping the ALL the "jews" away from work that day. You need "guys" to "plant" all of the "demolishion "bombs" in all the buildings, then ya gotta "hide em" and KEEP them hidden fer (months, weeks?) you need TOTAL secrecy as well. One person fucking up could bring the WHOLE "plot" thing down Then ya gotta have secret guys cooperating with our "own" government ta say.. "well , fuck them firemen and cops , they're gonna get screwed when the buildings come down.(write em off) Oh, and I can't ferget the WORLD WIDE MEDIA coverup here! I could go on and ON and ON pointing out other "problems" I see .. in DETAIL here.... Finally...You need a "Ultimate" Plotter behind all this .. and frankly.. I (norace) keep hearing at LEAST FOUR (4) MAJOR SUSPECTS are open to "discussion and disagrement, DEPENDING on which "Trade Center Conspiracy theory yer currently speaking of. LOL With only those "little" things to "splain".. Isn't it a little EASILER to believe Bin Ladin and his pals pulled off an MAJOR (probably unrepeatable)HISTORICAL EVENT, and temporarly "KICKED USA's major ASS"? They did ya know. And it IS/WAS MIGHTY EMBARRASSING fer EVERYONE! Norace was very PISSED too... Think about what yer asking OTHER's TO BELIEVE! And THEN...think why.... Yer so frustrated NOBODY seems listens to YA! ;) LOL
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 12:14
"...Terrorists didn't make hundreds of billions off the attacks, you know. .." These guys(terrorists )are a trip , fer sure.. You are ..DARN right Blue. But...They MADE something ...WAY way way the fuck more POWERFUL than mere ...money. They MADE.. RESPECT.. FEAR.. TERROR.. Ecomonic Havoc..and more.. In their "sworn ememies of god" And more importantly.. HOPE fer their crummy "cause".. It's not ALWAYS about the MONEY .. Blue.. Most times, but NOT all. ;)
From: patsystonecheers
[Patsy Stone]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 12:47
From: other [unclassified] Date: 8-Sep-2008 08:47 crappy materials in the 70s. -------------- My error on the construction timeline of #7. Construction began in 1984. In March 1987, the building opened, to become the seventh structure of the World Trade Center.
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 12:59
Try digesting this and then commenting upon it. Commie. You used to more or less lay back when Doc and I and Git, Bella , Vet used to have our famous conversations/flame-wars a couple of years ago. Marty was here with his appaling faggotry, Eggy and GD were great, T2 was just in from fucking n1ggers........and Snatchy was vastly approaching. It was great! Now isss Gittin borin'
From: other [unclassified]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 13:27
70s things got cheesier...more as time went on. That method of bulding is best saved for small and non-critical structures.
From: sp00k
Date: 8-Sep-2008 13:54
From: abluecommunist [Red is for republicans, dammit!] Date: 8-Sep-2008 12:30 NR, the Islamic radicals were trained, funded, and equipped by the US government, who is the real source of terror in today's world. There is no enemy of the US that is not manufactured or blown totally out of proportion. =====  The same government that couldn't pull off a wiretap has constructed every enemy in the world, and everyone really does love us?
From: abluecommunist
[Red is for republicans, dammit!]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 14:26
Note that I said 'manufactured' as in 'we made them' not 'we made them up'. Every tinpot dictator we've overthrown has been installed by the CIA. The mujhadeen of Afghanistan were trained by the CIA to fight the Soviets...Bin Laden was just a front. Same goes with Saddam, Noriega, the Shah, Diem, etc. etc. We are not loved by anyone because of our arrogance and militarism. We butt into everyone's business, tell them what to do, who they can sell to, who they can buy from, and even plant our military on their soil. 9/11 was at the very least a display of gross incompetence and malicious disregard for the safety of the American people. At worst it is the active betrayal of the American people by our very own Government...treason of the lowest sort. It's all a scam, folks. From the media to the elections, to your money and the fuel we 'depend' on, its a scam designed to keep us dumb, distracted, and utterly dependent. Our government is so obsolete it's not even funny, but desperate men do desperate things to retain what little they do have.
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 14:37
We shall hold such a determination in abeyance.
From: azdollarbill [Jim Jones]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 14:44
Quote:""...Terrorists didn't make hundreds of billions off the attacks, you know. .." So, who did? It is a matter of public record that the company which was salvaging info from the hard drives at the WTC, was, just when they actually got something, were taken over by another company, and the info was buried. To this day, nobody knows...well, somebody knows, but they ain't saying. If it ever came out that those who benefited were members of the Bush administration...Not saying they were, but unless, and until the info sees the light of day, rumors will fly.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 14:51
Sometimes some of the conspiracy folks here, (but not ALL) sound like sour grapes..ta me .. that a "grubby" bunch of 19 arabs "armed" only with "balls and boxcutters".. managed with what? A plan , a little patience and .. around 250 grand? ta totally "Change the world" and make the only Superpower on Earth look like a total fool? Like needing "Von Danikan" and "alien technology" to "splain" how "primitive brown people" could possibly Create the incredible structures and wisdom they found? LOL.. These "One man's terrorists are another's FREEDOM fighters" depending on which "side" yer on here.. Kinda remind me(Norace) (just a little, I admit) of the "Dolittle Raid".. Early in the War with Japan.. When "we" .. NEEDED a victory, any kind of VICTORY anywhere. Can you IMAGINE the US Military..in 1942? Actually spending the MONEY..TO try a "idea" Flying BOMBERS off Aircraft Carrier decks fer the first(and last, I believe) time on a ONE WAY mission to "bomb" and Harass the Japanese!"] Sounds pretty "desperate or DARING" depending on wich side yer one! LOL
From: thesickthsense
[iseewhitepeople!]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 17:44
** Like needing "Von Danikan" and "alien technology" ** to "splain" how "primitive brown people" could possibly ** Create the incredible structures and wisdom they found? Name them, and I'll enlighten you to the fact that they didn't think them up, design them, anything but build them while another race (asian or white) beat the piss out of them with a whip. The only damn time blacks built shit more than a mud hut was when the white man told them how to do it. Fucking dumbass.
From: ffffa5a5 [WeirdOne]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 21:24
I thought this covered the 911 conspiracy fairly well: South Park: Mystery of the Urinal Deuce http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/103775
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 22:59
...I like to consider myself somewhat of arm-chair authority of Rotten.com- and I never recall anything concerning a claim of being 'Fair and Balanced'.... There's a big difference between being Fair and Balanced, and passing rumors off as real stories. Last time Palin made Rotten headlines, the fictitious headline and blurb had nothing to do with the linked article. I admit that lies are pretty Rotten, but we come for "News We Can't Possibly Use", not left wing propaganda, just before an election.
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 8-Sep-2008 23:04
That's beside the fact that, as pointed out above, this story here mentions nothing about Meth in Wasilla, despite the headline.
From: mikey1969 [pithy quote]
Date: 9-Sep-2008 11:34
Actually, the story may be relevant, but the submitter's Headlnie isn't, since Wasilla is just where the story is posted from. I just looked on Google Maps, and Matanuska-Susitna is at least 60 miles from Wasilla 'as the crow flies', probably closer to 150 or 200 miles when you take the highway. Stories get posted like this all the time. Anything that comes out of Arizona, for example, is almost always guaranteed to say either 'phoenix', 'Tucson', or 'Flagstaff', regardless of where the story actually occurs.
Updated: 9-Sep-2008 11:34
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