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Wee Little Batons
BBC | Submitted by: Andrew The Great
"The government is to consider allowing staff at young offenders institutions in England and Wales to use batons to control children as young as 15." ... "The [officers'] injuries vary from broken noses, compressed fractures of cheekbones, fractured eye sockets, ears being bitten off, pens being shoved through people's faces, slashes."
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From: jesusmarley [Resurrected in a puff of smoke]
Date: 22-Oct-2007 10:21
For the love of Christ, it ain't like the guards are walking around randomly dropping an angry monkey beating on the kids. Sounds to me like it's the other way around and kids are immune to retaliation. I say give the guards batons AND tasers. Hell, if it was me I'd be frying the ass of any little fucker that got too close let alone took a swing at me.
From: static
[arking quotes]
Date: 22-Oct-2007 10:23
But Martin Narey, chief executive of children's charity Barnardo's and former chief executive of the Prison Service, said the use of batons to control children was not necessary, and that its use would "promote a sense of deep mistrust and suspicion". ^^^^ Let me understand, inmates trust the guards now? Deterrence comes from the threat of the retaliation. These little thugs attack without the fear of a beat down, why would anyone put themselves at this kind of risk. Batons, tasars, pepper spray, every thing to protect the innocent guards should have been done yesterday.
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 22-Oct-2007 10:44
Punch the little fuckers in the melon! When I was 15 I was a mean, nasty little piece-of-work....I doubt much has changed in 20-odd years to tame the savage breast of youth.
From: kuzzy
[Kuzzy]
Date: 22-Oct-2007 11:03
When I was 15 I was a mean, nasty little piece-of-work.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- As if youre a regular Mr Rogers now eh? 
From: houseof1mcorpses [(1104N.MissionRoad)]
Date: 22-Oct-2007 11:04
What can you do? What can you do? With a brat like that always on your back What can you do?
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 22-Oct-2007 11:26
with a baseball bat.....oh yeah, oh yeah oh oh
From: finn1916 [pornisfun]
Date: 22-Oct-2007 12:41
Beat on the brat beat on the brat beat on the brat with a baseball bat oh yeah..... i say good for the guards, bea the little bastards. if their parents had beat their asses a little more when they were kids maybe they wouldn't be in their little kiddie prison in the first place.
From: evildave [Evil Dave]
Date: 22-Oct-2007 12:51
You know, I find it ironic that people will blame 'video games' for teaching children to be violent, and in the same breath they'll condone being directly, first-hand violent to the same kinds of kids as if that will teach them anything different. All it will actually do is get a little bit of control FOR NOW, but they'll want to get control of and beat people (like their wives and children) later. I have a much simpler solution: Kill them. Except in fairly retarded horror fiction, nobody is particularly violent once they're dead. "Sorry mommy and daddy Dipshit, but little Junior mauled somebody and has to be put down. Maybe you should have paid more attention to discipline and watched for the signs when he was young, but now it's much too late to do anything about him."
From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 22-Oct-2007 12:51
If the little darlings have gotten themselves in the can for whatever they did, perhaps some stern correction is in order? Educate them, feed and clothe them, provide some recreation, treat them with dignity and goo humor.....and beat the fuck out of the first one that raises a hand to a guard. The others will learn by example.
From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 22-Oct-2007 12:55
http://youtube.com/watch?v=YBeguUvuDzs The solution.
From: okshunalljeanyes [Sometimes Not]
Date: 22-Oct-2007 12:56
"The injuries vary from broken noses, compressed fractures of cheekbones, fractured eye sockets, ears being bitten off, pens being shoved through people's faces, slashes," Mr Travis said." I'd give the guards batons, tasers, mace, baseball bats, ax handles, and karate lessons, and Oh yeah, firearms, and then I would try to find out why taser doesn't yet pass the spell check on rotten.
From: gargoyle1
Date: 22-Oct-2007 13:26
Fuck the baton, give the guards an AK 47 and stun grenades. That'll learn the little darlings. Blow their fucking heads off. ( like you didn't expect that one from me huh? )
From: sp00k
Date: 22-Oct-2007 13:51
"You do that by treating child prisoners firmly but with dignity, by educating them and making them employable, not beating them with truncheons," he said. ----------------------------------------------------------------- You know, sticking a fountain pen thru someones head really isn't very nice. Doesn't that make you feel sad? I think you should go to your room and think about this. And if you do it again today, there will be no dessert for you.
From: okshunalljeanyes [Sometimes Not]
Date: 22-Oct-2007 15:17
Yeah like time out for biting somebody's ear off is a deterrent or suitable punishment. Are ya gonna let him chew on it in time out, too ?
From: fescue
Date: 22-Oct-2007 16:29
Part of the problem is that activists for children are generally polite, educated, good-hearted, well-meaning people from polite, reasonably genteel middle-class homes who can't really understand that, in prison and in much of life, you're not talking about polite, educated, good-hearted, well-meaning kids from polite, reasonably genteel middle-class homes who just want someone to listen to them talk about their feelings and give them a hug and a cookie before they straighten up and behave. You're talking about people with a completely different set of values who, in many cases, don't understand anything but brute force and don't give a crap about polite middle-class values.
From: deddodge [gaylord]
Date: 22-Oct-2007 16:53
I wish I would of known that when I was a kid. I would of prolly bit a few ears off myself.
From: fucktardmama [fook-me]
Date: 22-Oct-2007 17:12
He added that custody should be an opportunity to redeem the child. "You do that by treating child prisoners firmly but with dignity, by educating them and making them employable, not beating them with truncheons," he said. ------------------------ Right. And we live in the world of gumdrops and lolly pops. I say fuck the kids up. When my husband was in grade school, a kid said "fuck" rather loudly in the class room. The teacher grabbed the kid by the ear, took him to the back of the room, and pumped his mouth full of liquid soap. The kid NEVER swore again for the rest of the school year. Neither did any of the other kids.
From: jjsurly [j.]
Date: 22-Oct-2007 19:15
"There are huge numbers of young men in prison with very serious mental health problems and threatening them with batons is completely inappropriate." Fine. then A) Lock them in a 6x6 foot rubber room. B) Give the guards bats, and let them go to town C) Lock them in a 6x6 foot rubber room until they're 18, THEN let the guards have their way with em. In this day and age, to refer to a number (18 'age') to differenciate who has diplomatic immunity from the system or not, under these circumstances needs some major revisions. Shiatty.
From: pundit [likeIsaid pundit]
Date: 22-Oct-2007 20:40
you just need a bit of voltage in the right place. guards are issued rubber boots but the wee darlin's have to swagger around in wool socks on wet floors. any sign of trouble and a strategically placed switch is flipped. tase the whole friggin bunch and sort it out later. shucks, I'll even go over there as a consultant.
From: csi [can't stand idiots]
Date: 23-Oct-2007 02:12
if you shoot the wee little bastards you will have no more problems. and the world would be better off.
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 23-Oct-2007 12:11
 click I reasoned the time auspiciously nigh for an infusion of gratuitous rabbitry.
From: snatchvondrippy [snatch]
Date: 23-Oct-2007 12:17
lil bunny foo foo i gots a wild hare across my ass
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 23-Oct-2007 14:16
 These are cute furries too......a woman in a pet-shop recently offered me 2 pigs/w a cage gratis; but I pussed out. A lone rabbit requires time and attention by itself. Totally dissimilar phylogeny and morphology with respect to rabbits and guinea pigs..but they co-exist harmoniously. The squeaking is capital and all.
From: snatchvondrippy [snatch]
Date: 23-Oct-2007 15:14
i'm sure choppy is more than enuf bun for ye without taking in wayward pigsters
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 23-Oct-2007 16:16
Exactimundo Snatchamentarianism....the verisimilitude of multitudinous squeaking oinkers overcame my brief furryphilia. Fortuitousness writ large indeed.
From: absintheredux
[Green Death]
Date: 23-Oct-2007 16:38
"Frances Crook, director of the league, said a recent parliamentary answer had revealed that nine out of the 10 most violent places of detention in the UK were YOIs, where the majority of those held are aged between 18 and 21. "The National Offender Management Service estimates that 11% of prisoners involved in serious assaults are children, despite being only 3% of the population," she said." __________________________________ Fifteen- to Twenty-years-old are "children"? Pardon me if I break into uncontrollable laughter.
From: gargoyle1
Date: 23-Oct-2007 17:19
Seems Duder must have fallen back into his drug and alcohol induced stupor. Not so daily Rotten Oh, and I despise guinea pigs with every strand of my DNA
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 23-Oct-2007 19:42
Why the animosity toward the little squeakers Goyle.......they are quite inoffensive little beasts. 
From: gargoyle1
Date: 23-Oct-2007 19:49
Because I hate them, that's why, noisy, shit machine little piss buckets. Grill them over an open flame. Goddamn rats without tails. Rabbits are a different story though.
From: larry
[larry]
Date: 24-Oct-2007 08:28
"You do that by treating child prisoners firmly but with dignity, by educating them and making them employable, not beating them with truncheons..." You stick a fuckin' pen in my face, and I'll truncheon your ass off.
From: plinkotic [HulkFuckingSmash]
Date: 26-Oct-2007 17:36
Hmm. What about rock-salt shells in 8gauge shotguns? They sound like fucking animals, and not the kind you feed, show people and give porn to help produce offspring. The kind you pump fulla motherfucking Rock-Salt. The spray down with firehoses. I didn't learn or fully understand the Golden Rule until 17, and I was a proper bastard. I got smacked a few times, and now I'm more conscientious about... everything, I guess? Dunno. Course, as long as there's oversight. There's no need to hurt someone who's defenseless, on the ground, not a threat. There's every good reason in the world to punch a fucker out before you get faceraped with a pen. Maybe every guard could wear a locked on kind of gauntlet/brassknuckles? Something an inmate couldn't take away.
Updated: 28-Oct-2007 13:17
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