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Religious Mobs Beravage Orissa
London Telegraph | Submitted by: KrshnaPubes
"Aligned to the radical Hindu Opposition Bhartiya Janata Party (BJP), the marauding mobs supported by the Vishwa Hindu Parishad or World Hindu Council, are alleged to have killed Christians by burnign them alive, gang-raped a nun and destroyed over 140 churches and orphanages across Kandhamal."
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From: bgolds
Date: 9-Oct-2008 16:49
Here's some good ol 'Merican religion. Apparently Aulduron was not aware that the Republican Party has an interest in religion. --------- Aulduron said: ...Republicans have said for years that their plan for America is to turn it into a 'Covenential Theocracy'- That is a nation whose Constitution and Bill of Rights is usurped by the Christian Bible.... Quote one, and give us a link. Put up, or shut up. ---------- Aside from the obvious stuff like packing the Justice Department with fresh graduates from Evangelical 'Universities',and a substantial number of GOP presidential nominees not believing in evolution, and Bush claiming to talk to God and rambling about seeing peoples souls, and Sarah Palin claiming that we are doing the 'work of God' in Iraq, and Tom Tankredo advocating the bombing of Islamic holy sites in response to a terror attack, and countless other hare-brained statements and examples, here are a few that stand out: Ralph Neas, President of People for the American Way, spoke before the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, October 10, 2002. He told the committee: "Mr. Chairman, the debate over the federal judiciary is part of an epic battle over the role of the federal government. The two-prong strategy of the right-wing of the Republican Party is simple but breathtakingly radical. First, enact a permanent tax cut which will eliminate $6 trillion in revenue over the next 20 years. That will in effect starve the federal government so it will be unable to fund many vital governmental functions performed since the New Deal." ------  Remember this guy? He was almost the GOP nominee for PRESIDENT "...Huckabee isn't new to calling for more Biblical influence on America's system of government. On the stump in Michigan in January, Huckabee declared that there was a need, "to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view." -------- And who could forget 'The Constitution Restoration Act of 2004', was introduced into both houses of our American CongressCongress on February 11, 2004. it includes the acknowledgment of God as the sovereign source of law, and threatens with "impeachment" and "conviction" judges who uphold church state separation. Thirty-nine Republicans cosponsored it. The 'Ten Commandments Defense Act', H.R. 2045', has 116 sponsors in the U.S. House of Representatives. Rep. Robert B. Aderholt, (R-Ala.) author of the bill said during an interview with TV preacher Pat Robertson's Christian Broadcasting Network, "The Supreme Court does not always have the final authority over the interpretation of the Constitution." Try looking up 'Dominionism' 'Christian Reconstruction' 'The American Constitution Society', and so on. This is apparently all news to you?
From: thepundit [America: the lost cause]
Date: 9-Oct-2008 16:56
Religious belief is the greatest threat to mankind
From: brotherbrubru
[Naughtius Maximus]
Date: 9-Oct-2008 17:35
There was a great article in the Onion a few years ago talking about this kind of bullshit: September 26, 2001 God Angrily Clarifies 'Don't Kill' Rule http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28151 Snippets: "Look, I don't know, maybe I haven't made myself completely clear, so for the record, here it is again," said the Lord, His divine face betraying visible emotion during a press conference near the site of the fallen Twin Towers. "Somehow, people keep coming up with the idea that I want them to kill their neighbor. Well, I don't. And to be honest, I'm really getting sick and tired of it. Get it straight. Not only do I not want anybody to kill anyone, but I specifically commanded you not to, in really simple terms that anybody ought to be able to understand." .......................... "I don't care how holy somebody claims to be," God said. "If a person tells you it's My will that they kill someone, they're wrong. Got it? I don't care what religion you are, or who you think your enemy is, here it is one more time: No killing, in My name or anyone else's, ever again."
From: fucktardmama [fook-me]
Date: 9-Oct-2008 17:53
"In 1999, a Hindu mob killed an Australian missionary, Graham Staines, and his two children by burning them alive as they slept in their car in Orissa, allegedly for his proselytising activity. The crime shocked India." - - - - - Yeah right the fuck it shocked India. This is a country where families are allowed to kill their new born girls. This is a country where families will sell their 9 year old girls off to prostitution rings because the money is more valuable than the girl. Yeah I'm sure they were fucking shocked as shit with this.
From: helterskelter
Date: 9-Oct-2008 18:04
"gang-raped a nun" =============== Wrote a song about it. Like to hear it, here it goes. Bow oo bow ooboww
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 9-Oct-2008 19:49
OK, I'll copy and paste my reply here, then, too. ----- All politicians, just like every other citizen of this country has a right to freely practice their religion. Huckabee came nowhere near becoming the nominee. We all remembered the last Arkansas governor who was elected President, and don't want any repeats. ...Ralph Neas, President of People for the American Way,... OK, you're going to sit there and tell me that Ralph Neas, President of People for the American Way, an advocacy group for lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans gendered and jewish people is a Republican? The PoPftAW was founded by television producer Norman Lear (Remember All in the Family, Maude, and The Jeffersons?) in 1981 specifically to attack the efforts of the religious right. I know you didn't have a straight face, when you wrote that. That paragraph already scored a point, in my favor. The Constitution Restoration Act of 2004, and the Ten Commandments Defense Act were meant to protect the First Amendment, not abolish it. As always, you're completely full of shit.
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 9-Oct-2008 19:52
Oh, this time you misquoted yourself. What was really said was... ...Republicans have said for years that their plan for America is to turn it into a 'Covenential Theocracy'- That is a nation whose Constitution and Bill of Rights is usurped by the Christian Bible.... To which I replied. Quote one, and give us a link. Put up, or shut up. Nothing in that drivel you've posted, twice, backs up your lie.
From: bgolds
Date: 9-Oct-2008 22:01
Here's another interesting story: In the early 1980s, brothers Bob and Todd Urosevich American Information Systems. They went on to control our electronic voting machines. To do that the brothers obtained financing from the far-Right Ahmanson family in 1984, which purchased a 68% ownership stake, Howard and Roberta Ahmanson are also chief contributors to the 'Chalcedon Institute' that supports the Christian reconstruction movement. The movement’s philosophy advocates, among other things, “mandating the death penalty for homosexuals and drunkards.” Republican Senator Chuck Hagel was the Chairman of American Information Systems and claimed between a $1 to 5 million investment. In 1996, Hagel became the first elected Republican Nebraska senator in 24 years in an election where the votes were verified by the company on which he served as chairman. Hagel’s first election victory was described as a “stunning upset” by one Nebraska newspaper. Now imagine substituting 'Muslim' for 'Christian' and 'Obama' for 'Hagel'. (I know 'Chuck Obama' sounds weird, but bear with me here...) Now- can you imagine how this scenario might sound suspicious? Here's a little article about the Chalcedon Institure. http://www.reason.com/news/show/30789.html It came from 'Reason' magazine. THEY are even a little spooked by the Dominionist's *ahem* 'Expression of faith'. My grandmother was a an active Right-Wing Libertarian back in the 60's. She loved this crazy magazine, so I am guessing that's enough street cred for a 21st century nut job such as yourself.
From: bgolds
Date: 9-Oct-2008 22:13
"...The Christian goal for the world," Recon theologian David Chilton has explained, is "the universal development of Biblical theocratic republics." Scripturally based law would be enforced by the state with a stern rod in these republics. And not just any scriptural law, either, but a hardline-originalist version of Old Testament law--the point at which even most fundamentalists agree things start to get "scary." On ultimate goals: "So let us be blunt about it," says Gary North. "We must use the doctrine of religious liberty to gain independence for Christian schools until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will get busy in constructing a Bible-based social, political and religious order which finally denies the religious liberty of the enemies of God." (He added: 'Now if you will excuse me, I have some votes to count...')
From: vicecity [vicecity]
Date: 9-Oct-2008 23:25
As fucked up as things are in the States sometimes, I fucking love it here. Sure, we have plenty of pricks and bullshit to deal with; but, nothing like the scum animal mobs that kill people over their made up god.
From: androloma
[the Manchurian Centurion]
Date: 10-Oct-2008 03:10
"...The secular goal for the world," Rotten theologian and poster ANDROLOMA (the Manchurian Centurion) has explained, is "the universal development of unBiblical, anti-theocratic republics." Scripturally based law would be destroyed by the state with a stern rod in these republics. And not just any scriptural law, either, but a hardline-originalist version of Old Testament law--the point at which even most fundamentalists agree things start to get "scary." Only by a culture free of theological and metaphysical superstition will this planet ever realize peace. I'm Andro, and I'm cool.
From: thepube
[adarklittlesecret]
Date: 10-Oct-2008 05:08
I was watching TV the other night and the show was about a British comedians trip to India. As he entered a house his host told him "As we come in we pray to the god of intelligence". The "god of intelligence" was represented by a four armed, blue headed, half man half elephant. At that point I stopped caring what Indians "think" , there is no hope for them.
From: other [unclassified]
Date: 10-Oct-2008 06:17
Be nice to them. After all they do all our jobs for us. As Americans we have no need or business going to college anymore.
From: slamdonkey
[fobiopatel.com]
Date: 10-Oct-2008 07:20
nothing like religious nutjob on nutjob violence. never have there been more inefficient organizations: - the religious freaks who try to do something good and wind up blowing 80% of their incoming donations on statues and other meaningless inanimate objects - the tards who rally to kill said jesus freaks: muslim, christian, hindu, or otherwise www.charitynavigator.com cheerio
From: billscatz [Bill]
Date: 10-Oct-2008 07:34
Hey the Wogs are really getting out of hand lately! A few weeks ago they mobbed and killed a factory supervisor who laid them off, mow they're after Catholic missions. Ungrateful Wogs! Lets get the English back in there to smooth things over... And we expect what from people who still believe a cow shitting in the living room is a sign of certain good fortune? We already gave them every customer service job in the US -- "Thank you for using a product, we so appreciate this! And how might I be of kind assistance to you today?" -- and this is how we get repaid? No more overtime, back to making brass trinkets for ten cents an hour. Might be time to revive the Catholic Crusades, Lets get some heavily armed mercenaries wearing robes to put the Fear of God back in the world.
From: helterskelter
Date: 10-Oct-2008 09:43
From: bgolds Date: 9-Oct-2008 16:49 ================== Next time a christian goes on about how this country was intended to be a "christian nation" remind them that the constitution goes against the ten commandments. The first commandment is Thou shall have no other god before me. The second one is thou shall not make engraven images (idols). The first amendment guarranties the right to worship any or no god including Idols. "Remember the sabbath, keep it holy", is also something we have the right to NOT do. Also recommend that they read Thomas Paine,Thomas Jefferson, etc. etc. Democracy was something considered to be against gods laws as well.
From: helterskelter
Date: 10-Oct-2008 09:59
Thomas Jefferson quotes “Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man” Thomas Jefferson quotes (American 3rd US President (1801-09). Author of the Declaration of Independence. 1762-1826) “The authors of the gospels were unlettered and ignorant men and the teachings of Jesus have come to us mutilated, misstated and unintelligible” Thomas Jefferson quotes (American 3rd US President (1801-09). Author of the Declaration of Independence. 1762-1826) “Religions are all alike -- founded upon fables and mythologies” Thomas Jefferson quotes (American 3rd US President (1801-09). Author of the Declaration of Independence. 1762-1826) “The Christian God is a being of terrific character - cruel, vindictive, capricious, and unjust”
From: helterskelter
Date: 10-Oct-2008 10:06
Here is some good Thomas Paine quotes http://atheism.about.com/library/quotes/bl_q_TPaine.htm ..we must be compelled to hold this doctrine to be false, and the old and new law called the Old and New Testament, to be impositions, fables and forgeries. [The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9 p. 282]
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 10-Oct-2008 10:14
Yes, Christians suck. I've never argued that, but you've presented no evidence to back up your claim that the Republican party has plans to turn us into a theocracy. Voter fraud is a good subject, though. http://www.click2houston.com/investigates/17671375/detail.html 4400 people registered, postmortem, to vote in Houston. (Historically, dead people vote overwhelmingly Dem) http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081009/ap_on_el_ge/voter_fraud ACORN submits up to 1000 fake registrations, in Mo http://www.nypost.com/seven/10102008/news/politics/1_voter__72_registrations _132965.htm ACORN pays Cleveland man to register 72 times. Obama pays 800K to Citizen Service Inc (with same board members as ACORN) for "various services).
From: helterskelter
Date: 10-Oct-2008 10:42
From: aulduron [Aulduron] Date: 10-Oct-2008 10:14 Yes, Christians suck. I've never argued that, but you've presented no evidence to back up your claim that the Republican party has plans to turn us into a theocracy. ====================== Not all, but enough to make me nervous. Pat Robertson has a law school that pumps out christian lawyers with an agenda to try and get biblical rules legally enforced. Couple that with the fact that churches are teaching children that there is no separation of church and state, etc. Not all republicans are religous fanatics but a lot of religious fanatics are republicans.
From: bgolds
Date: 10-Oct-2008 11:04
ACORN pays Cleveland man to register 72 times. ----------- I don't know why anyone would waste the money- there are plenty of people who are willing to do it for free. A majority already plan to, according to virtually all polling data. Here's one for you, Aulduron- What would you think if ACORN developed all of our voting machines and software? Or Obama's brother was the governor of Florida? Or the members of ACORN's board were also the attorneys general of the closely-contested swing states? You can probably see where I'm going with this.
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 10-Oct-2008 11:52
...a lot of religious fanatics are republicans.... And a lot of them are also Democrats. Religion knows no political bounds. ...I don't know why anyone would waste the money- there are plenty of people who are willing to do it for free A majority already plan to, according to virtually all polling data..... Vote 72 times? Yes, that's a big problem with your party. They don't give a fuck about fair elections. ...Here's one for you, Aulduron- What would you think if ACORN developed all of our voting machines and software?... I don't know what that has to do with anything, but I hope you realize that the first governor to use these machines was a Ga Dem, and that Diebolds election machines division is run out of Texas by a registered Democrat? ...Or Obama's brother was the governor of Florida?... I'd feel more comfortable if he had a brother who was governor of Florida,m instead of having a cousin who's President of Kenya. ...Or the members of ACORN's board were also the attorneys general of the closely-contested swing states?... Better than the fraudulent scumbags they have now. I forgot to mention the millions in "suspicious" donors, who don't know what state they're in, and those with fake names.
From: helterskelter
Date: 10-Oct-2008 12:16
Kissinger is mccain's advisor and brzenszki (sp?) is obama's. Brzenzski is the guy who helped create al-qaeda and kissinger has his evil mits on a lot of things. Both parties are controlled by the same people. Its a big game of good cop-bad cop.
From: helterskelter
Date: 10-Oct-2008 12:19
The whole ACORN thing seems like it was designed to be found out. You can't tell me they don't know how to properly rig an election. C'mon, who is really dumb enough to register the dallas cowboys in another state? Things are never as they seem. The same things are going to happen no matter which puppet gets elected.
From: absintheredux
[Green Death]
Date: 10-Oct-2008 20:41
The new election-time Revelation: "ACORN". How nervy and un-American of the lower middle classes and working classes to have their own Political Action Committee! This should be restricted to wealthy folks, Fundies and, of course, AIPAC. Besides who cares about the quality of registration, considering that the popular vote is a meaningless farce designed to make the sheeple believe that they're living in a true Democracy. Don't make me laugh, I have a bit of a cold and it hurts.
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 10-Oct-2008 21:18
What happened to you? If ACORN were just a group trying to lawfully make things better for us poor, I'd have no problem with them. Registering fake names, and the names of dead people, in order to undermine elections by putting their pawns in office, helps us not one bit. ...considering that the popular vote is a meaningless farce designed to make the sheeple believe that they're living in a true Democracy.... It's because of "people" like this that our votes mean little. It's the national popular vote that means nothing. Statewide popular votes determine for whom that state votes.
From: absintheredux
[Green Death]
Date: 10-Oct-2008 22:33
What happened is that I am sick and tired of the same bullshit at every election. Last time it was the Swift Boat Assholes and today it is Acorn. Some thrash suddenly appears mysteriously from the side that seems in danger of losing and the pattern makes me barf because people fall for it every time. ACORN is *accused* of unfair registration tactics, nothing proven, no real criminal evidence, and no convictions. I see no proof in that. I only see that the past 8-yrs stupidities of the neocons have damn near insured the triumph of Baroque Osama and that instead of taking their medicine the fucking Reps are throwing about a bunch of bullshit and smokescreens. The Weather Underground is ancient history, about 30 yrs worth, and the only reason to wave the ACORN banner is because a couple of decades ago O'Bama was tenuously involved with it. Blue or Red I am fucking sick of being fed crap instead of solutions. Fuck all parties Dems and Reps and of course the Libertarians who are running that old piece of stinking reactionary garbage, Bob Barr, as their candidate. When I see ACORN convicted in court, I'll join the hue and cry. In the meantime all I see is pre-election manoeuvering and the usual mudslinging. Fuck'em all.
From: absintheredux
[Green Death]
Date: 10-Oct-2008 22:48
BTW you may add the "Alaska Trooper" crap to the above list. No proof, just rumors. They all disgust me. I have more respect for Palin than for nay of the other and I think the GOP is using her shamelessly and ruining her future political career as the Dems did Ferraro.
From: other [unclassified]
Date: 11-Oct-2008 10:51
someone oughtta forward that last note to her buddies. I agree. If you aint got skeletons in your closet, you got no backbone. Vote for Zeroes get Zeroes. This lady at least has someone home, something to her.
From: bungmunch
[muncher of bung]
Date: 11-Oct-2008 11:49
From: helterskelter Date: 10-Oct-2008 12:16 Kissinger is mccain's advisor and brzenszki (sp?) is obama's. Brzenzski is the guy who helped create al-qaeda and kissinger has his evil mits on a lot of things. Both parties are controlled by the same people. Its a big game of good cop-bad cop. ---------------------- Yep. two party dictatorship 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB now lets see some big load gifs
From: groundnpound [Ghillie Sinclair]
Date: 11-Oct-2008 11:56
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_Bomb Global problems easily solved by multiple detonations in large cities inhabited by hemorrhoids (small brown pains in the ass). 
From: bgolds
Date: 11-Oct-2008 22:32
...An AP review of her time as mayor, from late 1996 to 2002, also reveals a commingling of church and state. "What a blessing that the Lord has already put into place the Christian leaders, even though I know it’s all through the grace of God," she wrote in March 2000 to her former pastor. Palin is also one of just two governors who channeled federal money to support religious groups through a state agency. An Associated Press review of the Republican vice presidential candidate’s record found that the governor and her family have spent at least $13,000 in taxpayer funds to attend at least 10 religious events and meetings since she took state office in late 2006.
Updated: 13-Oct-2008 16:40
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