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Behavior Detection Officers have their eye on you
Kansas City Star | Submitted by: Feral Grrl
"The use of micro-expressions to identify hidden emotions began nearly 30 years ago when Ekman and colleague Maureen O’Sullivan began studying videotapes of people telling lies. When they slowed the videotapes, they noticed distinct facial movements and began to catalog them. The Department of Homeland Security hopes to dramatically enhance such security practices."
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From: brigadierland66 [XArmyXAF]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 14:11

They can test it out on Congress..

From: igmo909 [Igmo]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 14:13

Great, start with Bush and send it down the line...

From: sp00k
Date: 21-Aug-2007 14:17



lying



lying



lying



lying

From: thesickthsense [iseewhitepeople!]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 14:17

It's pretty dumb if you ask me.

Systems like this will only harass common-folk, ie - good people
who tell little white lies.

A real psychopath has no outward signals. They're blank.

I know, I'm one a dim! Raaaarrrr!

From: flyndaran [Patrick]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 15:26

Micro-expression, just another buzz-word to make the ignorant public think detecting lies is somehow scientific rather than simple logic and guesswork. Right up there with the, at best, 70% accurate polygraph test.
My girlfriend's sister is a pathological liar. When she confessed to killing her infant second cousin, the polygraph indicated she told the truth about that but lied telling her own name. Fortunately the cops were actually looking for the truth rather than a simple arrest.

From: kwijibo [A fat, balding north-american ape]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 15:28

The untold part of the story is that these reading techniques were improved upon at Gitmo. Over five years of close scrutiny of Arabs and Muslims telling lies.

From: lesscalina [boobalina]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 15:33

Uphold the constitution; repeal the patriot act.

From: conspiracy [Theory]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 16:07

I'm half drunk when I fly.

I wonder if they can tell?

Also lots of meds that make people more interesting than they could
ever hope to be.

I wonder if they can tell ?

I also cannot be scared by anything .

I wonder if they can tell ?

Too old to care anymore

:)

From: gargoyle1
Date: 21-Aug-2007 16:17

Micro expressions my rectum. We need another Boston Tea Party.

From: cdntruthseer [look past the propaganda]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 16:34

bwa ha ha..

they'll believe whatever they are told or else they will go along for the good, and an industry will be born of it, and the few will get rich, the common man is oh too common, a mere resource.


hitler worked on schemes like this with far lesser technology and went far with it. the world had to turn itself inside out to stop him.

From: noracejusthuman [Alien From Earth]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 16:43

..the US model is "based" on a SUCCESSFUL one (Israel) but has "less scrutiny"...how good is 56 hours training?....a little? a lot?....you tell me...THIS sounds like a lawsuit WAITING to happen..

From: dankbear420 [dank]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 16:54

this ought to be good for a few laffs....


and this just in...

how can you tell when a politician is lying?



their lips are moving.




bada bing.

From: docdoober [IHavePnS]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 17:16

In the words of Dice Clay: "unfuckingbelievable"

From: roaddog [pclynn]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 17:46

This will destroy every polition in the country.
They'll next pass a law that they can wear
holloween masks or answer debate questions
bahind a wall.

From: torquemada [Tomás de Torquemada]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 18:24

A few shots of Botox on the face will fix all that.

From: bukweat [otay]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 18:34

Just more bs. Nothing the government has done makes me feel even one bit safer.
I tune in to faux news occasionally. OReilly had a body language expert,another show was on this topic. Remember when lying look up and to
the right-thinking. Up and to the left-lying or at least using the creative side of the brain.

From: drmstrspoodle [Daremaster Spoodle]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 18:57

Dammit, Dank! I was gonna tell that exact same joke for Sp00k! :)

From: crnkybitch [cranky bitch]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 18:58

At first I was a bit concerned, attendants, ticket takers, baggage handlers
being put in charge of determining who is safe and who isn't based merely
on facial clues?

But then I read " American officers receive 56 hours of training."
What a relief! I feel safer already! I hope the day will come as soon
as possible that our wonderful leaders can read our minds and not just
our faces.

From: thesickthsense [iseewhitepeople!]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 19:32

"Nothing the government has done makes me feel even one bit safer. "

Well... how hated is the US?

And we haven't had a single attack since 9/11?

They must be doing something right.

From: niebelung [oregonian]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 20:02

From: kwijibo [A fat, balding north-american ape]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 15:28

The untold part of the story is that these reading techniques were improved upon at Gitmo. Over five years of close scrutiny of Arabs and Muslims telling lies.
****
I doubt it. To do a proper scientific analysis of how to tell when an a-rab or muslime is lying you would have to have a control for comparison. And where could you ever find one of them that isn't lying?

From: thesickthsense [iseewhitepeople!]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 20:16

"And where could you ever find one of them that isn't lying? "

Mass graves?

From: abluecommunist [Red is for republicans, dammit!]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 20:56

You wanna know why there are no Arabs or Muslims on Star Trek?

Because it's in the future :)

From: abluecommunist [Red is for republicans, dammit!]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 21:05

1800th post!

200 more until the magic 2000.

Of course compared with the 7-8000 other people have 2000 is jack shit.

From: studgerbil [Stud]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 21:16

This won't work on politicians and other pathological liars, only on normal people who lie on rare occasion.

It's all part of the long-term plan to make everyone some sort of criminal. Once they get something on the average, decent, law-abiding citizens everywhere, they have total control of everything. They are almost there right now, but there are still a few stray honest people who haven't been charged with some crime yet.

From: noblesavage [Noble Savage]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 21:34

Shades of Orwell's 1984 grow neigh.
I agree with those who say "micro-expressions"
is just a catch phrase with which to throw
people in the catch-all terrorism machine.

Those guys couldn't catch their own ass with both
hands. How are they gonna catch micro-expressions?

I can see it now.
"Hey bob, that guy just had a micro-expression.
I think we should throw him in gitmo and dissapear
him and his whole family."

From: lexdysic [John Soames]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 21:56

I thought the URL below, and owner were pretty fucking strange, you know the type that should not be allowed to own a computer. After reading "micro-expressions", I'm wondering if he has something....

http://www.rhfweb.com/

Don't ask....

From: roaddog [pclynn]
Date: 21-Aug-2007 22:39

I got a neighbor who's face looks like saran wrap
due to a fire he was in. Now tell me, how the hell
are these geniuses going to tell when he's lieing?
I don't care if he's lieing or not, I just don't
look him directly in the face, just in his eyes.
I really have too much empathy for him to worry
weather he's lieing. He's a great man and he's
pretty hilarious at times.Holloween is his favorite
time cuz he scares the shit out of a lot of people then.
He puts on fake blood and Billy Bob teeth. It's a
party with him around sometimes.

From: studgerbil [Stud]
Date: 22-Aug-2007 02:26

Okay class, let's review:


Lying


Honest


Lying


Honest

From: kdp [Calif - Ex Patraite]
Date: 22-Aug-2007 06:16

I'm going to Europe later in the year. Maybe it's time to have some fun with the TSA bozos.

From: ferret [Honkey Kong]
Date: 22-Aug-2007 06:31


From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 22-Aug-2007 09:58

There are sooooooo many ways to get past this.

Besides, wouldn't a terrorist be gleeful at the thought of blowing something up?

From: wentwhere [to the store]
Date: 22-Aug-2007 10:12

I just hope they don't use their magical microexpressions to catch me bringing greenery on the plane.

From: dickhead [I'm just better, than you]
Date: 22-Aug-2007 11:48

Ekman facial expression was used in the making of gollum in lord of the rings. They have 50 ways just to make gollum smile. it was awesome.

From: crnkybitch [cranky bitch]
Date: 22-Aug-2007 13:27

They have 50 ways just to make gollum smile. it was awesome.
++++

What is so awesome about that?

I have an unlimited number of ways to make Dickhead smile.

From: cont10tious [youdon't knowshit]
Date: 31-Aug-2007 17:45

You really don't know shit!

Updated: 31-Aug-2007 17:45
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