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Welcome to 2008: Mandela Finally Not a Terrorist
Wire Services | Submitted by: Jean
"In time for the anti-apartheid leader and Nobel Peace Prize winner's 90th birthday on July 18, President George W. Bush signed a bill Tuesday which effectively ended a system in which Mandela had to get special certification from the US secretary of state that he is not a terrorist in order to visit the United States."
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From: vomit
[Vomit]
Date: 2-Jul-2008 14:43
Funnily enough I was discussing the definition of a terrorist v's a freedom fighter on another forum today. Ones guy definition was: "When the Afghans were fighting the Soviets they were freedom fighters. When they turned on the Americans they became terrorists"
From: monolith [Watching over the chimps]
Date: 2-Jul-2008 14:48
That makes him an "ex-terrorist" then I suppose.
From: gargoyle1
Date: 2-Jul-2008 14:50
GW just trying to make hisself look good before he leaves office, ain't working though. Other than that, who gives a flying fuck?
From: vomit
[Vomit]
Date: 2-Jul-2008 14:59
Ummm Ikthool Mandella has not been "in charge" in South Africa for quite some time now. He was replaced by an even crazier fuck !
From: crapola
[Quit_Bitchin]
Date: 2-Jul-2008 15:02
From: vomit [Vomit] Date: 2-Jul-2008 14:43 Funnily enough I was discussing the definition of a terrorist v's a freedom fighter on another forum today. Ones guy definition was: "When the Afghans were fighting the Soviets they were freedom fighters. When they turned on the Americans they became terrorists" ### Ok asshead. here it is in a nutshell. Al Qaeda fought Soviet INVADERS to keep them out of the country. When they decided that all western culture was to be eliminated and attacked us they became terrorists. Get it?
From: ikthool
[ikthool]
Date: 2-Jul-2008 15:13
Shit,thanks for the heads up. I knew I should have went with "now that apartheid is gone". Yeah well, whether I'm a tard or not, my point is still valid.
From: terminalguidance [John]
Date: 2-Jul-2008 15:17
He's done so much for South Africa. What a festering hellhole. And his wife's a murderer.
From: vomit
[Vomit]
Date: 2-Jul-2008 15:22
So how long do you reckon before our new friends in Afghanistan "become terrorists" too ? You know everything would have worked out a lot simpler and probably fewer people would have been killed if in 1979 the US and the Soviets had agreed that the Soviets were fucking welcome to invade Afghanistan in return for not kicking up a fucking stink over the US doing likewise in Iran. The only downside would be The Soviet empire would have lasted another 5-10 years.
From: zebrabob [zebrabobsgotabigone]
Date: 2-Jul-2008 15:35
bet you that Mandela's name still pops up on the 'watch list' at the airport!
From: crapola
[Quit_Bitchin]
Date: 2-Jul-2008 16:08
Vomit It's always tit for tat in proxy wars. Soviets and China in Vietnam; US in Afghanistan. You mean Iraq, right? And no they would always pounce on the opportunity to try to guilt or embarrass us out of any military action as we would do to them. We want Iraq stable because our European Allies have been flooded by refugees from that region. We also need a stable Iraq to trade with and quite possibly another staging area for future conflicts.
From: absintheredux
[Green Death]
Date: 2-Jul-2008 19:00
"Iran" was correct. When we supported the Mujahideen (not the same thing as al-Qaeda) against the Russkies (1979-1989), Iran was the thorn in our side (hostage crisis)and we did call the Taliban "Freeedom Fighters" in spite of their tyranny, 'cos they were *our* sons of bitches. When they protected the Taliban in 2001, they became the enemy and the excesses of their rule finally denounced. No al-Qaeda until 1988 and Osama did not appear until even later.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 2-Jul-2008 20:26
I don't know.. Let's be honest about this.. The ANC did in fact commit what could easily been considered amoral, terrible illegal acts throughout it's history. Being labeled a "Terrorist" organization at one point just means they were Outgunned and out organized at the time.. Acts somewhat LESS GLOBAL tahn say, the United States and the CIA fer example.. Norace believes .." everybody plays the fool,.. SOMETIMES.. No exception to the the rule.." WE ARE ALL TERRORISTS! Even the puppies! ;)
From: robotpope [Kiss my Titanium ass]
Date: 3-Jul-2008 00:20
King George signed the bill? I'm surprised he didn't veto it!
From: mcgyver [Steve]
Date: 3-Jul-2008 00:49
Of course Mandella's not a terrorist. He doesn't look like one. Terrorists wear turbans on their heads and walk around with 5 pounds of C4 strapped to their chests. When was the last time you heard Nelson Mandella say "Praise Allah" ?
From: darkshadow [Dahhkness]
Date: 3-Jul-2008 10:30
http://www.spike.com/video/2795969 "I think Mr Mandela smoked my drugs!"
From: uggh [!]
Date: 3-Jul-2008 10:43
Once a terrorist always a terrorist. Let him have his birthday cake with Will Smith then ship him off to an undisclosed location and put him on the bottom rung of a naked man pyramid, buried underneath a stack of sweaty arabs.
From: piscivore [Michael C. Scott]
Date: 3-Jul-2008 13:20
The guy helped blow up a train station, killing innocent people. I'm on the Terrorist Watch List right now, and I didn't blow up a train station.
Updated: 4-Jul-2008 13:25
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