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Area Man Injured in Recycling Mishap
San Francisco Chronicle | Submitted by: Schwag of Tulsa
"There was a scientific method to Daniel Zeiszler's madness when he tried to extract methamphetamine from his own urine, after smoking the illegal street drug last September in his South San Francisco hotel room."
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From: accounts
[CJ]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 07:08
Ever piss on a camp fire? Man I bet that hotel room will be airing out for weeks. But knowing South SF it was rented by the hour. The door swinging so much from hookers renting them acts as a fan.
From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 07:17
Well, at least he gets an A for originality. But as far as thinking that this stooge should be in school, instead of jail....puh-leeze....he should be under heavy chemical restraints and psychiatric supervision. Honestly, how bad are you jonesing to need to recycle your piss?
From: jimbojakkjonsun [john smyth]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 07:27
great now were going to here ten more storys like this as word gets around that this works but u have to drink gallons of piss
From: antinomianist
[AERDNA]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 07:29
From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened] Date: 3-Dec-2005 07:17 Well, at least he gets an A for originality. But as far as thinking that this stooge should be in school, instead of jail....puh-leeze....he should be under heavy chemical restraints and psychiatric supervision. Honestly, how bad are you jonesing to need to recycle your piss? ---- True, BUT who do you know that reached for a chemistry text when they're jonesing?
From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 07:36
Hmmm, who does reach for a chemistry text when jonesing....well, bikers for one....who do you think invented this crap??
From: antinomianist
[AERDNA]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 08:17
From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened] Date: 3-Dec-2005 07:36 Hmmm, who does reach for a chemistry text when jonesing....well, bikers for one....who do you think invented this crap?? --- And you know them?
From: popo
[insert witticism]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 08:18
Invented this crap? Ze Japs? Ze Gubmint? Methamphetamine, more potent and easier to make than amphetamine, was discovered in Japan in 1919. The crystalline powder was soluble in water, making it a perfect candidate for injection. It is still legally produced in the U.S., sold under the trade name Desoxyn. During World War II, amphetamines were widely used to keep the fighting men going (during the Viet Nam war, American soldiers used more amphetamines than the rest of the world did during WWII). ...reaching a peak of 31 million prescriptions in the United States in 1967...
From: theallseeingear [Bavid Dyrden]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 08:54
This just confirms the Christian view that the crotch is the root of all evil.
From: robwrigley
Date: 3-Dec-2005 09:54
Man, and I thought drinking bong water was a desperate ploy to get high. Rob
From: azdollarbill [Jim Jones]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 10:18
"Zeiszler, a 22-year-old employee of a San Francisco recycling depot," So he was just following his calling, as a recycler. I wonder, if tweeker's piss contains usable amounts of Meth, albeit by the gal, what the accumulated amount is doing to the environment. I know for a fact that the accumulated amount of Prozac, pissed away from those who are taking it, has adversely affected the hormonal balance of fish. What happens to us when we eat those fish? Popo, any input on this?
From: rawnchee [Rawn Chee]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 10:50
It says he plead guilty to the manufacture of meth. He needed a better lawyer. The meth was already manufactured, he was just trying to get it. Guilty of posession and use, not mfg. There's no way this guy should be in a chemistry lab. Smoking in a 'lab'...what a fucking moron.
From: youdiemonia [Brandon]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 11:01
I went to a shamanism lecture last night and this works with mushrooms. You can drink the piss after tripping up to 6 times and still trip. Though the lecturer did admit he still hasn't come to terms with drinking his own piss. Nor has his brother.
From: studgerbil [Stud]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 11:04
I'd love to nosh on that guy's brainstem for a while. Or maybe his pineal gland.
From: weghalbert [the_mad_hatter]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 11:06
From: thumsum [Giv' em some thumb] Date: 3-Dec-2005 09:31 Another re-cycling tip. Don't chew those peanuts. You'll see. same for corn......
From: snyznyk [snyznyk]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 11:43
He should have tried getting it from his shit. Shit is easier to keep lit and has a nice nutty aroma.
From: guntotingliberal [GunTotingLiberal]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 12:50
The more I hear about Meth the more I just want to NEVER TRY IT!!! What the fuck is the lure? Drinking your own piss? BTW CJ, I have put out a lot of fires by pissing on them and man does it smell BAD! Acrid and like urine concentrated beyond nightmare proportions.
From: tsentsen [tsentsen]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 13:25
What a bright young lad, and even more bright after he caught fire. If he was smart enuf to figure out how to, then how come he wasn't smart enuf to calculate how much urine he'd need? As his 'educated' attorney astutely pointed out it was indeed a "really, really, silly move". I'm sure he and the gang in the slam will all have a good chuckle.
From: melvin69 [John Bong]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 13:40
I've read a report about testing the rivers around a city to find out about drug use of the inhabitants. It works for cocaine. Here's a link about the rivers of Italy. [co.uk] From what a 40 yr old tweaker friend of mine says meth makes for great sex. He also told me he's watched woman cream their pants after shooting up. The downside makes me wonder though. The withdrawal and expense of the whole thing isn't something that is nice. The article lists the negative effects of the drug perfectly. From the rotten library: Uses of pee [rotten.com] I saw an article there awhile back about mushrooms and pee parties, but I can't find it now.
From: rocco
[I'm the funny man!]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 14:21
As his 'educated' attorney astutely pointed out it was indeed a "really, really, silly move." Just imagine how difficult things would have been without that pearl of wisdom.
From: rockspin [Dopeman]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 14:46
Thank you for that superb article, Mr Bong.
From: azdollarbill [Jim Jones]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 14:59
John Bong, those links are just full of pithy info. I especially liked this: The urine, which was obtained by squeezing out the diapers, Imagine having that job? Like what do you do? Oh I squeeze the piss out of dirty diapers. And also this one, remember when the topic was on cheese? Although not a common practice, the addition of urine to cheese-making has been known to make a richer, more piquant cheese, highly sought after by those who've tasted it. Well, if they say so.
From: tsentsen [tsentsen]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 15:22
AZ...you rock my world dude, 'pee'-quant cheeze.
From: backuptheholler [Junebug James]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 15:43
Good cheese (not Velveeta--I don't know what in the hell that is) requires rennet, an enzyme found only in the lining of a calf's stomach. I remember my grandmother using the "rennet bag" to make cheese. So, it doesn't surprise me at all that some people might find a little pee makes for good cheese too. Haven't had that...that I know of. I won't eat souse either. Some parts of animals were not meant to be recycled into food. And I'll pass on recycling my pee too, other than for watering trees in the woods.
From: poontang [footlong]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 16:03
dont never eat anything with peanuts or corn at this guys house...
From: tucanscrew [three's more fun]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 17:11
Okay, the talk of urine and cheese has led my mind to another place and I don't think I want that on my cracker.
From: backuptheholler [Junebug James]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 18:18
Souse: boil the pig's head and feet until meat literally falls off the bone. Strip meat off bones, chop, and mix with gelatin made from the broth. Put in mold until set. Also called head cheese. 
From: eljefe [el jefe]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 19:06
Ummmm, am I the only one who known anything about meth synthesis? He probably wasn't extracting the meth from his urine. He was most likely using his urine for the high anhydrous ammonia content. Since he was in San Fransisco it was probably hard to get anhydrous ammonia. The stuff is used as fertilizer and is found on farms. The "solvent" that started the fire was most likely ether(like in starter fluid). The theory works, but it's not practical. You would need TONS of piss
From: azdollarbill [Jim Jones]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 19:32
Here's another use for piss(from yesterday's postings): Wasn't it the French that had a gas mask in WWI that you had to piss on before putting it on?
From: jerryg [themlongtrips]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 20:29
anhydrous means without water dipshit. urine contains ammonia salts and a small amount of ammonia solvated in water.
From: inhalien [Chevy Chase]
Date: 3-Dec-2005 23:46
Why don't we digest corn?? The native Indians cultivated and ate it for hundreds of years, so why can I still see it after I eat it? And we'll go ahead stop right there...
From: 44444 [44444]
Date: 4-Dec-2005 01:13
Eljefe, As a former meth user i actually think he was doing what the article said he was doing. I've heard of it before. The solvent that caught fire could have been acetone or denatured alcohol, which is commonly used to clean and make 'ice' (a.k.a. 'glass') from meth.
From: deathbox [Pinky]
Date: 4-Dec-2005 03:23
And i was thinking all thiz years that meth is shit! Oh silly me! 
From: thaimaixhu [Thai Mai Xhu]
Date: 4-Dec-2005 05:25
Hmmm, I've always thought they were re-cycling drugs from the piss in the urinals at titty bars. Also, ice is 4-methylaminorex, not methamphetamine.
From: studgerbil [Stud]
Date: 4-Dec-2005 09:37
Yeah, um, I got $30 on pump 4, and a Cherry Slurpee, some nachos, and, um, 8 tins of Sterno and a loaf of day old bread.
From: uglytrog [troggy]
Date: 4-Dec-2005 09:46
"ice" is a term used in federal sentencing guidelines to refer to d-methamphetamine HCl that is 80% or higher purity.
From: azdollarbill [Jim Jones]
Date: 4-Dec-2005 11:48
From: inhalien [Chevy Chase] Date: 3-Dec-2005 23:46 Why don't we digest corn?? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Actually we do, it's the cellulose which the kernels are wrapped in which gets passed. My question is, when a person eats peanuts, how come they come out as, well, peanuts? I ask this, in reference to "The Happy Hooker", where she has a client who has her eat Brazil nuts, shit them out, & serve it to him on a silver platter, all piping hot. She didn't find that at all disturbing, but disliked the use of a silver platter for the "deposit".
From: tsentsen [tsentsen]
Date: 4-Dec-2005 12:43
How to digest corn 101 ... chew first, then swallow. Reminds me of the Cheech & Chong shtick about the two dogs walking down the road having a conversation about life in general. One dog goes poo. They both examine it as dogs like to do. Then other dog in a heavy latino accent says "heeyyy man! I like the corn for texture!"
From: doczzz
[dwarf fusion]
Date: 4-Dec-2005 14:09
Since Premarin comes from the urine of pregnant mares, I always assumed they made Ritalin from the urine of pregnant rednecks (preferably inbred ones). N'est pas?
From: mcgyver [Steve]
Date: 4-Dec-2005 15:40
I bet he was PISSED off when he found out it didn;t work.
From: thaimaixhu [Thai Mai Xhu]
Date: 4-Dec-2005 18:01
So since when have the feds gotten anything right? With a few washes of acetone, alcohol, and other solvents such as tolulene, most crank/meth can be cleaned up to produce pretty ice-like crystal shards, sometimes clearer and prettier in this humble ones opinion than 4-methyl-5-phenyl-2-amino-oxazoline, but it's still not ice, it's meth, and damned nice meth too. Our Patron Saint, Alexander "Sasha" Shulgin [lycaeum.org] REFS: [erowid.org] [aspetjournals.org] [lycaeum.org] [astm.org] O.H. M.B.
From: conspiracy
[Theory]
Date: 4-Dec-2005 18:04
What a cheap ass druggie. Why isn't he out there giving blow jobs for his drug money like all the other low life pieces of shit? My Two Cents
From: thaimaixhu [Thai Mai Xhu]
Date: 4-Dec-2005 18:08
LOL!!!! Or making some quality spoof for distribution? Oh how the mighty have falllen.
From: 2muchfun [Wulfgar the having too much fun]
Date: 4-Dec-2005 21:26
So now that the fire is out do we call him 'Lefty', 'Stumpy', or 'Scorch'? Why not run it through a still or just go for the direct return. M-M-M-M still warm! 'They's many a Scotsman . . .' See "Rob Roy" - the movie.
From: eyeforaneye [The Second Helping of Honesty Soup]
Date: 5-Dec-2005 05:38
Wow, I don't think that I saw any Darwin references. I'm dissapointed. Anyway, if all this guy wants is a little meth just throw his ass in jail with a bunch of lifers. He'll get all the meth he can handle....Straight from the tap.
From: jellyfishattack
Date: 7-Dec-2005 23:50
but he was an employee of the RECYCLING DEPOT.
From: brightwood
[Bright]
Date: 9-Dec-2005 07:22
Where in the world have all of you been. Drinking one's piss to recycle all the valuable water-soluble chemicals that gets excreted through one's urine has been around for centuries. Until the Brits discovered the benefits of the lime, a.k.a. vitamin C, recycling one's piss was the British Navy's, the Spanish Navy, the Portuguese Navy's, and perhaps even the Yankee Navy's only documented and required treatment against scurvy. They would literally pee into barrels and then ration it out for mealtimes, until the first outbreak of scurvy occurred anyway. This is because vitamin C, being water-soluble begins to be excreted as soon as it hits the bloodstream. Piss drinking allowed them to continue sailing an average of one month longer than non-piss drinking, without coming back to shore (but for what they had no clue, until the 1780s, when they realized that Limes allowed them to remain at sea for longer than the the shelf-life of a lime.) That's also how so many of them acquired each other's STDs, so it was figured that they might as well sodomize each other, since they were all going to come down with each other's illnesses anyway. Except, of course, for the captain, who not only had his own cabin boy for that particular reason, but only he and his cabin boy shared each other's piss. RHIP.
Updated: 9-Dec-2005 10:25
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