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Teenage Suicide (Don't Do It)
CBS News | Submitted by: anonymous
"The suicide rate among preteen and young teen girls spiked 76 percent, a disturbing sign that federal health officials say they can't fully explain."
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From: dickhead [I'm just better, than you]
Date: 7-Sep-2007 12:57
They realized dickhead was coming to town.
From: dickhead [I'm just better, than you]
Date: 7-Sep-2007 12:57
heuk! I troll myself.
From: zebrabob [zebrabobsgotabigone]
Date: 7-Sep-2007 13:01
guess that it's not connected to the drop of teen drug/alcohol use and sex, is it?
From: mrgrey
[Neil.A]
Date: 7-Sep-2007 13:08
More research is needed to determine whether this is a trend or just a blip, ------------------------------------ Trend? We used to wear cool clothes as a trend. 
From: teratomarty
[Self-made man]
Date: 7-Sep-2007 13:34
Maybe it's not an increase in depression, but a change in methodology? When I was in high school, they told us that girls usually chose ineffectual methods of suicide, like eating a whole bottle of aspirin or slashing their wrists (remember kids, it's "down the road, not across the street"), whereas boys went for more full-bore methods such as firearms or jumping into traffic. Possibly the increased equality of the sexes means that both genders are now choosing equally efficient methods.
From: mysticmommy
Date: 7-Sep-2007 13:54
I think that some of it might be attributed to the fact that it is now cool to be a "mean girl". Teenage girls are about the most vicious animal on the planet. That has always been true, but it is getting worse every year. I knew a couple of girls back in HS that were tormented by a couple of cheerleaders. I mean merciless pranks, humiliation and constant degradation. It made "Carrie" look tame. No one did anything, not the teachers or principal. One girl attempted suicide and ended up being transferred to an alternative school, and the other ended up dropping out of school completely. What they didn't get to see was the stretch marks, fat asses and deadbeat husbands those 2 cheerleaders had at the reunion.
From: gargoyle1
Date: 7-Sep-2007 14:06
What a waste of good teen pussy. Maybe they should just fuck instead of offing themselves. Or is it the obscenely fat and ugly ones that are snuffing it? We need another study here.
From: chinnuts
[Got Three For Ya]
Date: 7-Sep-2007 14:21
What they didn't get to see was the stretch marks, fat asses and deadbeat husbands those 2 cheerleaders had at the reunion. ------------------------------------------ It is amazing how much the level of the playing field changes by the 25 year reunion. Most of the jocks peaked in high school and only have that little bit of glory to hold onto.
From: scarfface
[Schmutamongus]
Date: 7-Sep-2007 15:03
"The suicide rate among preteen and young teen girls spiked 76 percent, a disturbing sign that federal health officials say they can't fully explain." Can't explain? Jeebus. You ever see preteen and young teen BOYS?
From: spreadmycheeks
[line up roun' l'block to suck my cock]
Date: 7-Sep-2007 15:54
Well, it means nothing to me. Boys still commit suicide at a rate of four times as that for girls. I guess it helps to be a pussy girl, like being afraid of guns and dangerous machinery. And of course, having a vagina means having an inherent worth that is insanely higher than that of a boy. It's like being born with an instant trust fund. Men are actually required to earn their own money in this world, versus just spreading their legs.
From: niebelung [oregonian]
Date: 7-Sep-2007 16:01
Maybe the prospect of being defined by society as anointed royalty deserving every privilege just put them under too much stress.
From: athenstexman
[Ron]
Date: 7-Sep-2007 16:26
play that record backwards here's a message yo' for the suckas play that record backards and go fuck yourself play that record backwards its a message from awwwwwww play that record backwards and go go go go go go kill yourself mutha fucka go kill yourself mutha fucka go kill yourself mutha fucka go kill.. yourself hate and devour the young and the weaker ones and dont forget the guns youre gonna need em to go kill yourself hate all the people you love in a river of blood and dont forget the guns youre gonna need em to destroy always destroy always destroy always destroy, yourself yourself destroy yourself if you don't get what you want hate all the people you love in a river of blood and don't forget to go go go go go go kill yourself mutha fucka go kill yourself mutha fucka go kill yourself mutha fucka go kill... yourself hate all people you love in a river of blood and dont forget the guns youre gonna need em to destroy always destroy always destroy always destroy yourself yourself destroy yourself if you don't get what you want youre gonna really need em' youre gonna really need em' youre gonna really need em' youre gonna really need em' kill yourself because you dont get what you want kill yourself because you dont get what you want kill yourself because you dont get what you want kill yourself because you dont get what you want
From: snatchvondrippy [snatch]
Date: 7-Sep-2007 16:36
spread yer cheeks; bitter much young man? vaginal wannabe? neither a puss nor a pretty face will buy your ticket for life. be a man or start the hormone process. cryin like a bairn cause ye dinna like yer dick is plain idiotic.
From: beavis4000 [Who?]
Date: 7-Sep-2007 16:38
"... a disturbing sign that federal health officials say they can't fully explain." I'm sure it's easy to explain. The problem is deciding where to begin.
From: mrnatural [MrNatural]
Date: 7-Sep-2007 20:26
having a vagina means having an inherent worth that is insanely higher than that of a boy. That is a fact. But things balance out. Q: Why do women bleed and have babies and all that shit? A: Because they deserve it!
From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 7-Sep-2007 20:37
Spread, you aren't observant....just hateful and jealous. Niebelung is too. After all these years the truth comes out.....women are not envious of penises....we never were.....we just wanted the power, money and respect that seemed to go with having one. The truth is men are envious of uteruses.....we are Goddesses in that with just a tiny bit of goo, we can create life, another human, a whole other person! Men have to talk someone into being the goo bearer and incubator and that is what truly chaps your asses.
From: snatchvondrippy [snatch]
Date: 7-Sep-2007 21:03
If you don't like what I have to say, then shut the fuck up. Don't blame me for being observant. --- blame you? you dont sound worthy of anything but a sewage sandwich for all the sense you make. i know dick's don;t have to make males idiots, but you seem to have over achieved in that regard-and by dog ye sound like a stub holder=is that another gripe o yours? yer mammy didnt grow ye more than a flick of a prick- i kin ye just want to be loved- hope ye's got the doss to buy the pussy ye hate so. i canna imagine anyone lending you their hole for free. leper lipped lingcod go jack it in the closet suckin on one of yer mam's clogs. just like yesterday, and the day before, rinse, repeat.
From: csi [can't stand idiots]
Date: 7-Sep-2007 21:14
if they watch the news I can see why they want to die. the world has gone to hell. and the smart ones want out.
From: evildave [Evil Dave]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 00:08
I think some of you have it partially pegged. They're attempting to kill themselves with more effective methods. Every time a suicide is portrayed in the media, a big spike in copy-cat suicides follows. Though Japan is most notorious for suicide fads, it happens in every country. I bet there have been more women killing themselves on TV lately, too. Apparently there was a hanging suicide on 'Desperate Housewives'. More effective methods, tips, and techniques are available from the internet, which they all have access to. Do a couple of quick searches and drill down through a couple of hits, and you'll get step-by-step instructions with pitfalls and all. Sure, there's alt.suicide.methods, but Wikipedia has a ton of useful content, is persistent, and doesn't have quite so many nasty cranks and Emos. Web searches for 'planned complex suicide' are very informative. Or you can blame it on the increased popularity of Japanese anime. Suicide is a simple process once you work out what can go wrong and take care of the details. Here are some handy general tips to file away in case you're ever in the mood to do it, or facing a nasty terminal illness, or you want to punish your boyfriend or whatever. It can actually be comforting to know you have an effective exit option, should you ever need it. 1. Don't get fancy. Whatever method you select, choose a tried and true method that always succeeds (when not completely fucked up by idiots, which is a problem with every suicide method), and look into how it has been done successfully and emulate success. Make sure you do it right the first time. Most suicide attempts that fail carry the risk of brain damage, paralysis, blindness, and other permanently crippling injuries. Not least, you could be killed! 2. Privacy is essential. Try for at least 24 hours of uninterrupted privacy. A whole week is better. You aren't likely to succeed if anyone will walk in on you, or get you directly to a hospital after the fact. Even if you have a gun, unless you can blow your whole head apart (ala 12ga in the mouth, or a pipe bomb pillow), or at least turn a lot of brain matter into useless, bloody goo, 'rescue' can be possible after you initiate things. The asshole who 'rescues' you is a hero, and you're left to live blind, with a hole in your brain and a squishy lump for a face, fed through a tube and gurgling for the rest of your miserable, closely monitored life. An outcome arguably MUCH worse than death. At least if you have privacy, even if you screw up VERY badly and blow your face off, or 'only' paralyze yourself and don't die immediately, without immediate first medical attention the shock will get you, or at least dehydration/exposure. 3. Don't give it away. Look up 'suicide symptoms' on the web. Make sure you don't overtly display any of those symptoms. Don't give treasured belongings away. Don't try to put all of your affairs in order. Don't act differently than you normally do. If you feel you MUST get rid of stuff and order your affairs, MOVE. That will give you an excuse to sell crap off, give things away, pack things up nicely, etc., and then go far away from anybody who might remotely give a damn, and take care of business. 4. Have a ready explanation for what you're buying materials for. If you buy a BBQ grill, get some hot dogs and buns and condiments. If you buy rope, maybe ask advice on how to build a tire swing, or get a tarp and ask how to improvise a tent. If you're obtaining dangerous or suspicious things, don't get it all at once, or from the same place (i.e. buying short sections of threaded pipe and matching pipe caps is sort of dumb). You probably won't need an excuse. Most retail drones would watch the components of an atom bomb roll by their checkout scanner in the order they're assembled, and wouldn't know or care. Hell, the same can be said for airport baggage screeners. You go in looking pale, paranoid and haunted, buy a rope and nothing else, there's a small possibility somebody will notice. 5. Don't be squeamish. If you lose consciousness fast enough, nothing will hurt at all. Most trauma (though unpleasant) isn't actually painful at the time it happens. Even if it hurts A LOT, it won't matter in a few seconds (or up to 20 minutes with some botched methods). If you worry about leaving a 'pretty' corpse, get over it. No matter how perfect you look initially, your corpse is going to leak, stink, bloat, turn colors, attract blowflies, fall apart messily, etc. and eventually be completely recycled into other organisms. Post-mortem images meant to shock/scare you into not doing it are POST MORTEM. In other words, it happens after any possibility of the subject experiencing it. By the way, nothing will prevent you eventually looking like that. Even if you don't commit suicide, some day YOU WILL DIE.
From: flayed [Flayed]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 01:55
Hey evildave, thanks for that informative suicide post. Before I read that I had no desire to kill myself, but now I think I might just give it a shot, see if I can pull it off. Thrill of the challenge and all that. See all you Rotten fuckers in the cold, eternal oblivion that awaits us all!
From: flayed [Flayed]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 01:59
On a serious note, ciaochowbella, the whole "I envy you because I can't bear children" thing is about as old and played out as the "I envy you because of your penis" thing. Except for a few very rare cases, how many people do you know that would actually switch genders? Assuming it was a simple, cheap, but irreversible process. I no more want a parasitic fetus growing in my gut than you want a goo-spouting insatiable cock hanging between your legs.
From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 03:43
Flayed, I wasn't referring to men like you. You are happy being male and appreciate the female of the species. It's those who loathe us simply for being female that I was referring to. Misogyny is a lot like homophobia........the more you hate them means to more you want to be them. For all the loving, caring, decent men out there.....we love you, appreciate you and wish you wildly passionate sex with the person of your choice.
From: androloma
[the Manchurian Centurion]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 04:57
And I'm going to heartily disagree with ciaochowbella about her homophobic statement. I've always been homophobic, yet never wanted to be homosexual. I accuse bella of never having been a man, and of not knowing what men are like. Fairies are male, but never men. Dykes are female, but never women. Now do you understand? Homosexuality is a human response which categorizes otherwise incomplete human beings. The male who can never be feminine enough must overcompensate, and thereby renders himself a comic caricature. That's why heterosexual women despise homosexual males: they act more feminine than actual women, to the extreme of pretending to be delicate. It shocks me bella, of how little you comprehend homophobes. I've been surrounded by men so much in my life, I'm sick of 'em. I hope you don't mind that I utterly destroyed your stupid theory.
From: georgedublubusch
[Head pooBa]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 06:24
From: dickhead [I'm just better, than you] Date: 7-Sep-2007 12:57 heuk! I troll myself. When you are an "untouchable" of the Indian caste system you gotta do what you gotta do.
From: spreadmycheeks
[line up roun' l'block to suck my cock]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 08:22
we just wanted the power, money and respect that seemed to go with having one. ===== They have nothing to do with each other, silly girl. AGAIN, what truly matters is what's between your ears, not what's between your legs. Pretty hard for a whore like yourself to comprehend that truism, I know... The truth is men are envious of uteruses.....we are Goddesses in that with just a tiny bit of goo, we can create life, another human, a whole other person! ======= LOL Well, I hope you're proud of yourself, even though you're little more than a cow. Or a virus. Anyways... Caio, just keep sucking that cock! It's your most valuable talent! And Snatch Drip, I can't understand a word of that gothic chicken scratch. Lay off the fucking absinthe.
From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 08:25
Androloma, you are full of crap. Try this on for size.... http://web.archive.org/web/20040202035152/www.apa.org/releases/homophob.html It's about homophobia and male arousal. It was a simple deduction to apply the same reasoning to misogyny. We hate most in others that which we see in ourselves.
From: niebelung [oregonian]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 09:00
It's those who loathe us simply for being female that I was referring to. **** Ciao, you remind me so much of a typical Israeli. Any criticism of Israel is immediately condemned as antisemitism. I have no "loathing" of anyone because of their gender. What I hate and despise is the way our society has been hijacked by sexist bigotry that systematically discriminates in favor of females. Naturally females welcome that and see nothing wrong with that. I grew up in a racially segregated society. I thought having things like segregated schools and swimming pools for me was just the natural way things ought to be. It took a long time to learn what a just society should be. Now I'm the n1gger, and my sons and grandsons; while people like you stand by applauding. This morning I turned off my DVD player and found the TV was on CBS. Part of its Saturday morning kids programming was on. This program in its thinking could have well been something straight out of Nazi propaganda projects from the thirties, except that instead of teaching hatred of Jews and glorification of Germans, it was teaching hatred of males and glorifying females. Try a program with the opposite slant in this country and you will be charged with broadcasting "hate language." That's what I hate; not females.
From: teratomarty
[Self-made man]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 09:22
"If you don't like what I have to say, then shut the fuck up." What the hell kind of senitment is that? Are you aware that you're posting on Rotten.com? I'm not even going to comment on the misogyny thing, because it's clear that you don't just have issues, you got a lifetime subscription, but saying "shut up" to a Rotteneer is like trying to put out a fire by dousing it with gasoline. How about this: if you don't want people to disagree with you, then *you* shut the fuck up?
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 09:42
I shan't inject myself into this thread except for this brief bon mot........the 'Oregonian' makes a fine point. Of course, to those of an opposing mind it must seem somewhat antiquated and out-of-step with social reality. Political correctness shall be the death of us all.
From: spreadmycheeks
[line up roun' l'block to suck my cock]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 09:55
Political correctness shall be the death of us all. == Truly! Those with greater prospects and achievements will be chopped down so they can be EQUAL with those with too much of a shitty attitude to even try. Equality is the dangerous fundamental idea behind socialism – and communism. “All are equal, but some are more equal than others” -- George Orwell, Animal Farm Let's revisit some of the song lyrics of Rush: There is unrest in the forest There is trouble with the trees For the maples want more sunligh And the oaks ignore their pleas The trouble with the maples (and theyre quite convinced theyre right) They say the oaks are just too lofty And they grab up all the light But the oaks cant help their feelings If they like the way theyre made And they wonder why the maples Cant be happy in their shade? There is trouble in the forest And the creatures all have fled As the maples scream `oppression!` And the oaks, just shake their heads So the maples formed a union And demanded equal rights the oaks are just too greedy We will make them give us light Now there’s no more oak oppression For they passed a noble law And the trees are all kept equal By hatchet, Axe, And saw ... --Rush, The Trees, Hemispheres, 1977
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 10:03
Jesus I'm getting old.......I saw the 'Hemispheres' tour in late 78'- early 79'? at the Capital Theater in Passaic NJ. I couldn't have been more than fucking 12. Peart was the shit. Thanks for the mortality reminder cocksucker. As if I needed one. 
From: androloma
[the Manchurian Centurion]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 10:11
I am not full of crap, bella, and I'll thank you not to insult me for simply disagreeing with you. From my life's perspective, men physically repulse me, and women attract me. What's so fucking hard to understand about that? I've never had an attraction to any male in my life, and your denials and websites full of irrelevant statistics still mean nothing. But here's a pic of someone who WAS full of crap. 
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 10:36
That's Marty after a rough weekend on Fire Island!
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 10:41
No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
From: androloma
[the Manchurian Centurion]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 10:48
Yeah, Orwell was a great writer. But to further belabor bella's point, let us say I have a physical revulsion to dead people (necrophobia). Is bella's psychologically scientific study to infer that I repress a desire to copulate with the dead (necrophilia)? The logic of bella's reference falls apart using this comparative analysis. My homophobia is as naturally occurring and as right for me as my necrophobia. Checkmate. I win.
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 11:29
Don't wrestle a turd pal........even when you inevitably win....some of the stink remains. Word to the wise.
From: teratomarty
[Self-made man]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 11:42
Straw man, Centurion, that's not what Bella meant and you know it. If a guy doesn't like the idea of fucking dead people and just never fucks dead people, that's one thing and we call that thing "normal". However, if a guy devotes hours of his time and pages of text to saying that necrophilia is *disgusting* and he can't stand the thought of sliding into that cold, rotten slippery flesh, and he can't see how *anyone* would be able to defile a dead woman, so still, so pale, so yielding, you could do anything to her, as hard as you liked and she wouldn't leave you or betray you or call the cops... you'd begin to think the guy was a little funny about dead women. Similarly, if a guy doesn't want to fuck other guys, and just doesn't, he's straight. However, if he goes off on an unprovoked homophobic rant about how disgusting asses, balls and hard, throbbing, slick cocks are, you know he's thought about the topic of man-meat rather a lot. More, one would say, than a straight man would. If you don't like something and it isn't directly impinging on you, then you tend not to think about it. Therefore, when someone such as SpreadMyCheeks takes something like teen suicide and uses it as a pretext to bang on about how women are sluts with no inherent worth, you have to understand that the guy's fucked-up about women. Yeah, it sounds like he envies women a lot, and probably wishes that he could be a pretty, pretty princess who never had to do anything but have sex, too. I'm not saying that he wants a sex change, because then he'd be stuck as a real woman, having to get a job and wear pantyhose and deal with dumbshit comments from guys and that. He just wants to be his fantasy of a woman, and probably has a huge closetful of stretched-out angora sweaters.
From: studgerbil
[Stud]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 11:56
Why not just lay your neck across a railroad track just before the train comes? I imagine it would be clean, quick, and 100% foolproof. You'd be dead in an instant. Sorry -- was this women vs men? 
From: evildave [Evil Dave]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 13:46
LOL (evilly) You're welcome, everybody!
From: androloma
[the Manchurian Centurion]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 13:52
Teratomarty: Agreed. What we seem to be comparing is extremism, and instances of extremism. Ultimately, live and let live. But please acknowledge my revulsion of the male physique authentic, and not repressed. I know how I feel more than any of you amateur psychologists. Respectfully yours, 
From: spreadmycheeks
[line up roun' l'block to suck my cock]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 14:03
LOL, oh gawd Oh Marty. That's NOT what I said and you damn well know it. Jeepers. Creepers. Just ask the Creeper what he prefers, boys or girls...   We all know he prefers this...  over this...  Why is that, Mr. Salva? You know girls have that sweet delectable pussy, how can you turn that down? What is wrong with you? And oh yeah. Why do you homos ALWAYS take sides with the woman?
From: androloma
[the Manchurian Centurion]
Date: 8-Sep-2007 14:45
All part of my pet theory, cheeks, that there is no such thing as homosexuality. There's people trapped in bodies, rather, who lust after that which they are not. Can it be true that marty, in wanting men, actually wants to be a female who wants men? Something to think about. No wonder I don't understand.
From: evildave [Evil Dave]
Date: 9-Sep-2007 18:18
"Why not just lay your neck across a railroad track just before the train comes? I imagine it would be clean, quick, and 100% foolproof. You'd be dead in an instant." Well, studgerbill, that would probably work. Problem is sitting next to the tracks waiting for it. You'd want to get pretty far out of town, away from people who might ask questions, call the cops, etc. I'd probably plan better by driving out of town, abandoning the car and walking along the tracks until either a train shows up, or I find a secluded enough spot where nobody will see. The only problem is, it's sometimes a bit difficult to tell what track the train is on until it gets very close. You probably don't want to watch it coming, or you might chicken out. It would be truly embarrassing and do nothing for your self esteem to lay your neck on the wrong track and hear the train pass on the other. Even worse, maybe your legs are on the other track, so you get sucked into the wheels and spat out twisted up enough not to bleed out very quickly, with an indefinite wait until the next train comes.
Updated: 13-Sep-2007 15:02
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