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Your country thanks you
San Francisco Chronicle | Submitted by: Graehme de Parke, Esq.
"After serving a year in Iraq, Army Reserve Spc. Patrick Rogalin came home and found that everything he had put in a storage locker — essentially everything he owned — had been sold."
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From: friend [with Machete]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 13:20
When I'm having sex I like to jump up and yell.. FIRST
From: stripes919 [anal seepage]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 13:21
Sounds like an inside job on the identity theft issue. And the company should up their offer. We need stronger penalties on this problem of ID theft. Leave porno alone !
From: pussypounder [deeppenetrator]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 13:28
He should talk with his JAG officer, its free, and if this is not a legal question, then I don't know what is.
From: friend [with Machete]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 13:33
Thanks Aulderon, Nobody likes me during sex because I'm always by myself.
From: mikeisgreen
[Mike]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 13:36
And that only takes a minute, Friend. First? I would believe it every time.  ********************************************** RE: The Article  For Anal Use Only
From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 13:43
I also think it sounds like an inside job. Anyone know a good attorney who will do some pro bono work for this young man?
From: pussypounder [deeppenetrator]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 14:02
I think he is whining because his property was stolen
From: kwijibo
[A fat, balding north-american ape]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 14:02
There should be a law that they can't do that shit to someone who is deployed overseas until and unless they talk to a stateside JAG and get an ok. Then the JAG contacts the soldier and they work it out. I swear to god, I would fucking assrape whoever was behind this shit. Fucking with a soldier (or sailor or marine or airman or coastguardsman) just ain't right. They are in the shit anyway. They don't need this sort of nonsense. I think I'll find this guy and send him a few $$$.
From: doczzz
[dwarf fusion]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 14:06
You'd think the bad publicity from this would make them reconsider. Public Storage, Inc: Go fuck yourselves. The reason you aren't apologizing is that you pull this shit on customers all the time.
From: synesthesia [you'll figure it out]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 14:12
What kind of girlfriend would not check this for him? We need more details.
From: skyeyez9
[Marie]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 14:23
When I was single and in the army I deployed for 6 months. Luckily my dad took care of my car and belongings. I didnt have many belongings, the main ones were my computer, car, stereo, clothing. But still, I would have felt like shit if my stuff was sold/stolen.
From: heldane666 [James Bong]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 14:39
This guy had just spent a year in Iraq and doesn't have enough money to hire a lawyer? What the hell? He should have atleast 20 - 30 grand (maybe less I'm not sure what the army's paying nowadays).
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 14:43
...There should be a law that they can't do that shit to someone who is deployed overseas until and unless they talk to a stateside JAG and get an ok. Then the JAG contacts the soldier and they work it out. ... They probably had no idea the guy was a soldier.
From: azdollarbill [Jim Jones]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 15:41
Tough break for the guy. I hope he at least gets compensated fairly. As for his plans, this has to make you wonder: "Rogalin said he plans to attend Missouri State and join the university's ROTC program, so he can resume his Army career as an officer after he graduates." All well and good, but with Bush's Johnsonization of the war, how long will it be before he gets called up? 6 months maybe?
From: skyeyez9
[Marie]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 15:45
He should have had money but his account was compromised and wiped clean of all his savings. ................. From: heldane666 [James Bong] Date: 10-Jan-2007 14:39 This guy had just spent a year in Iraq and doesn't have enough money to hire a lawyer? What the hell? He should have atleast 20 - 30 grand (maybe less I'm not sure what the army's paying nowadays).
From: noodleboy
[Abstract Aardvark]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 16:36
From: skyeyez9 [Marie] Date: 10-Jan-2007 15:45 He should have had money but his account was compromised and wiped clean of all his savings. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The perils of direct-deposit.
From: gargoyle1
Date: 10-Jan-2007 16:38
That really would suck to find out not only did some asshole steal your ID and all your money but then the storage people sold all your shit. I'd be mad as hell and looking for an attorney even though I hate them almost as much as I hate the thief.
From: rottenaugratin
[Rotten au Gratin]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 16:57
Hey the same thing happened to me... sort of. Except we hadn't missed any payments. My husband's scumbag uncle took the liberty of lying to the storage company and taking all our stuff for himself to sell when we moved. SO yeah, I know the feeling of coming back and discovering everything you owned GONE. But at least I wasn't dumb enough to sign up to get my ass shot at to protect a bunch of oil for rich assholes who don't give a fuck about me or my life before hand.
From: toddsputnik
[todd sputnik LLC]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 17:10
"Ron Ramler, regional vice president of Public Storage, said company policy prevented him from talking about Rogalin's case ... 'I called them back and told them this isn't anywhere near right ... [t]hey upped their offer to $2,500 and gave me seven days to accept it or get nothing." __________________________________________________________ In another words, "Frak you you little whiny pissant even though ME BIG CORPORATION who pays LOTSA MONEY to REPUBLICANS for protective legislation [i.e., me no liable for your loss] and you go fight some stupid ass war which we REPUBLICANS got you into!" HAhahahahahahaha. What is he going to do ... hire a lawyer at $300 an hour to collect an $8,000.00 claim? Long live PUBLIC STORAGE ...
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 17:40
...In another words, "Frak you you little whiny pissant even though ME BIG CORPORATION who pays LOTSA MONEY to REPUBLICANS for protective legislation [i.e., me no liable for your loss] ... Tell me, how much money has the Public Storage industry given to Republicans, and how much have they given to Democrats?
From: ltjackboot
[name]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 17:42
The storage company I worked for would have offered (in light of the I.D. theft) the $5000. But then, they had some integrity because it was a mom and pop operation and they would have said 'this is as much as our insurance will allow us to offer but we feel bad about this and if you'll stay as a customer you can have free storage for say 5 years' They were good folks.
From: stevedave
[Brocktoon]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 18:14
how much you wanna bet Ron Weasly or whatever regional vice presidents name was has a 'I support the troops' sticker on his SUV. Republicans have amassed so much bad karma its causing global warming.
From: toddsputnik
[todd sputnik LLC]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 18:29
it is not so much the 2002 legislation which has been passed to enable this to happen, rather, it is the legislation for the consumers which could have been passed to make it cost efficient for the bailor to recover the goods from the bailee. If consumers or enlisted soldiers [i.e., the American public who did not benefit from the Republikkkan tax plan] were able to recover their attorneys' fees in claims against storage facilities then perhaps this Solider would not be at the end of a stick begging for $8,000 when he was only offered $2,5000.00. Of course, people like you probably think that this is socialism so it would never happen. I am sure that the Public Storage, inc. lobbyists would agree with you. Snap!
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 18:49
Why wasn't that protective legislation passed in the 50 years when Republicans had no power in the House or Senate? To be frank, I've never heard of a law that forbids torts against storage facilities (or anyone else) from covering attorney fees as damages.
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 18:50
... Of course, people like you probably think that this is socialism... White people? Poor people? Which people like me are you talking about?
From: sinthyia [name withheld to protect the offendee]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 18:59
Firstly, the low grade privates qualify for FOOD STAMPS, that is how little they are paid. Secondly, sadly, this happens all to often. We hear about it around here alot (I live near a big army base). These guys have lost their things they store, their pets are put to sleep, all their stuff is stolen, etc. It's nothing new sadly.
From: toddsputnik
[todd sputnik LLC]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 19:00
People like YOU. No I don't mean "white people." I mean people like: Born: 24-7-1966 Birthplace: Detroit, Michigan, USA Gender: Male Ethnicity: American Sexual orientation: Bend over and find out Occupation: Internet Troll Nationality: United States Executive summary: Right Wing Asshole MSNGR: aulduron_01@yahoo.com New Title: Sir Aulduron of Detroit, Famed Rotteneer, Thread Moderator of the Highest Order, A Gentle Man and a Gentleman, Expert on American Shitholes. Nothing personal. By the way, you can only recover attorneys' fees in actions if they are allowed by statute or contract. I heard this from my doctor during my liposuction out-patient procedure. I love you! Snap!
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 19:10
I seriously doubt you'll find another person that fits the description in my profile. ...By the way, you can only recover attorneys' fees in actions if they are allowed by statute or contract. I heard this from my doctor during my liposuction out-patient procedure. ... That's odd because I have 2 companies currently trying to recover attorney fees, along with other money, from me right now. When attorneys have advised me to sue, they've always insisted that their fees would be included in the damages, including the counter suits I'm currently involved in. I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure it's the other way around.
From: toddsputnik
[todd sputnik LLC]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 19:11
"We hear about it around here alot (I live near a big army base). These guys have lost their things they store, their pets are put to sleep, all their stuff is stolen, etc. It's nothing new sadly." ________________________________________________ Just WTF are my tax dollars being spent on everytime Bush and his bitches ape along to Congress asking for a trillion frakking dollars? If you are going to Congress for money for a War, don't you want to pay those fighting it? Just wondering. Sincerely, Dick Cheney.
From: toddsputnik
[todd sputnik LLC]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 19:14
The so-called "British Rule" automatically provides for recovery of attorneys' fees for the prevailing party. The so-called "America Rule" does not. Your attorneys are prbably relying on small language, hidden in a contract [or on the back of an invoice] allowing them to recover their fees. There is a growing body of California case-law holding that if the losing plaintiff asks for attorneys fees, then the prevailing defendant can recover such fees even if there is no such contract providing it. However, since I just took 30 hits off of my bong, I cannot vouch for this.
From: thesickthsense
[iseewhitepeople!]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 19:17
** toddsputnik: Find something useful to say and stop using SNAP! all the damn time you dimwitted tard! JHC, when the hell were you born? And where? The DRC? I hear their vocabulary is limited, so it would seem likely. Save yourself the anguish and STFU.
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 19:23
I'm thinking that Ca and Mo must be the exceptions. I couldn't imagine anyone adding that to a contract unless forced to, and I never forced anyone to. It doesn't sound as though he has any kind of case against them anyway. The bills weren't paid. They didn't know why they weren't being paid, unless they broke in and stole his identity in the first place. It's a fucked up situation, but it's not the storage places fault, and I don't see how any lobbying of anyone has, or could have, changed that.
From: toddsputnik
[todd sputnik LLC]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 19:30
"I couldn't imagine anyone adding that to a contract unless forced to, and I never forced anyone to." __________________________________ The dirty little attorneys' fees provision is pretty standard and can be found anywhere. For example, when you get a credit card or open a bank account, it is virtually hidden on documents they send you AFTER you have the card or AFTER you open the account. Since many consumers are unaware that they have entered into transactions agreeing that the terms can be changed unilaterally at a later point, they are unaware of this. How many times have you thrown away the tissue paper pamphlet "modifying terms" of your credit card? "It's a fucked up situation, but it's not the storage places fault, and I don't see how any lobbying of anyone has, or could have, changed that." __________________________________ In the end, I kind of agree with you and disagree. I agree that the Storage Company was not responsible for not receiving payment. However, there should be legislation giving Soldier/Consumers more rights -- i.e., preventing storage companies from selling their belongings until they are back from Iraq. Per Bonehead Bush, that tour of Iraq just got a lot longer. Good luck with you lawsuits. Snap!
From: studgerbil
[Stud]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 20:05
This guy was lucky the Army didn't do it. When you have your belongings shipped stateside from overseas duty, the Army tells you up front to personally carry anything of high value to prevent it from being stolen by ... the Army. No shit. When they ship cars, they tell you to take out the stereo/GPS/mobile phone, whatever. Otherwise, the Army cannot be responsible for anything that is stolen by ... the Army. This poor slob was the vicim of a regular everyday thief. But he could've easiliy had far worse done to him by his employer.
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 20:20
Who should pay for it? How about the non military consumers you mentioned? Did the facility even know he was in the military?
From: doesshe
[ever shut up, that DS?]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 20:27
Well, I must say, maybe for those who have decided to serve the US should have something set up through the government where their possessions were stored safely while they were deployed.
From: plotter56 [plotter56]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 20:29
your wife cant divorce you when you are deployed so i think the storage compant should have held his stuff till he got back also its not a mom and pop it was a corporation so they should have said fuck it its a sodier we will make it right even if it wasnt our fault just on the strengh of it
From: heystoopid [ian deal]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 20:29
the big unanswered question who at the storage company embezzled the funds in the first place, and what happened to the remaining cash that was forwarded to the company after the second bank account resumed payments for the empty storage locker, that appeared to be double let So many unanswered questions indeed, the jerk that wrote this article must have failed basic journalism 101, how rotten can they be?
From: noodleboy
[Abstract Aardvark]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 20:30
You know, I think it might be the bank that would be liable for the loss. US banks are supposed to watch their accounts like hawks and be on the look-out for potentially criminal patterns of activity (thanks, Clinton Administration and Bush Justice Department!). Why they didn't seek this guy out after "his" string of bad checks to ask him, "What the fuck?" is beyond me.
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 20:55
...your wife cant divorce you when you are deployed so i think the storage compant should have held his stuff till he got back also its not a mom and pop it was a corporation so they should have said fuck it its a sodier we will make it right even if it wasnt our fault just on the strengh of it ... How are the supposed to know he's in the military? Is that normally asked by storage facilities I've never used?
From: dikwitha [Dik]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 21:55
SNAP! Now.....................what the fuck is for DESSERT???
From: stripes919 [anal seepage]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 22:40
Again I feel this is an ID theft issue in order to steal his checking account money. My wife had the problem as a result of using a credit card at a Macys dept. store (not their card) during a Christmas shopping visit. Didn't know about this until seven months later doing a credit check report annual review. Forget porn laws until we get to those thieves who get into our identity. Then we can do a little"porn" on them.
From: blackpug6 [vugelken]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 22:48
This whole story is made up bullshit!.. Granted, it could happen. Unfortunately, it's just another "poor mouth" plea for money.
From: bubbavirus [www.dogbomb.co.uk]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 23:40
Just poured a glass of chablis out of an auction storage facility "Zero" fridge... mmmmmm 
From: larry
[larry]
Date: 11-Jan-2007 04:31
Why they didn't seek this guy out after "his" string of bad checks to ask him, "What the fuck?" is beyond me. -------------------------- Maybe nobody at this "Public Storage" company knew there is a war going on in Iraq.
From: georgedublubusch
[Head pooBa]
Date: 11-Jan-2007 04:48
From: toddsputnik [todd sputnik LLC] Date: 10-Jan-2007 17:10 In another words, "Frak you you little whiny pissant even though ME BIG CORPORATION who pays LOTSA MONEY to REPUBLICANS for protective legislation [i.e., me no liable for your loss] and you go fight some stupid ass war which we REPUBLICANS got you into!" HAhahahahahahaha. What is he going to do ... hire a lawyer at $300 an hour to collect an $8,000.00 claim? Long live PUBLIC STORAGE ... Cut to the chase todd, say it, say it, George Bush did it!
From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 11-Jan-2007 06:01
From: sinthyia [name withheld to protect the offendee] Date: 10-Jan-2007 18:59 Firstly, the low grade privates qualify for FOOD STAMPS, that is how little they are paid. Secondly, sadly, this happens all to often. We hear about it around here alot (I live near a big army base). These guys have lost their things they store, their pets are put to sleep, all their stuff is stolen, etc. It's nothing new sadly. ---------------------------------------- That's what you get when you sell yourself into slavery.
From: pocket5s [pocket]
Date: 11-Jan-2007 06:17
"There should be a law that they can't do that shit to someone who is deployed overseas until and unless they talk to a stateside JAG and get an ok. Then the JAG contacts the soldier and they work it out. " There is a law. The Serviceman's and sailors credit protection act. While you are deployed, your car, house, credit card bills ect... CANNOT be placed in default status. Any interest rates you are paying that exceed 6%, are reduced to 6% until 30 days AFTER you return. Provided you tell them. Most storage units will give service members a discount, and the larger ones do have notations in their records of who is a service member, to ensure something like this (having belongings auctioned off) doesn't happen. The storage company fucked up, and if this guy went through JAG, he could get 100% of his claim paid. Prior to deployment, service members spend days getting briefed on all of these things. They are given form letters to send to their creditors, offered assistance in filing claims....ect.... The storage place is wrong, and they know it. that is why they offered him a settlement. I also hope there is a special place in hell for anyone who rips off a soldier while they are serving in a war.
From: rottendrew
[andrew]
Date: 11-Jan-2007 09:30
Ron Ramler, regional vice president of Public Storage, said company policy prevented him from talking about Rogalin's case. Or how the company fucked him over.
From: rottendrew
[andrew]
Date: 11-Jan-2007 09:31
Ron Ramler, regional vice president of Public Storage, said company policy prevented him from talking about Rogalin's case. or how the company fucked him over.
From: sinthyia [name withheld to protect the offendee]
Date: 11-Jan-2007 10:06
A Follow Up... Soldier flooded with offers of aid Storage company sold man's goods as he served in Iraq. Wes Johnson News-Leader Patrick Rogalin's story has struck a nerve with America. Rogalin returned from Iraq in October, only to find his belongings had been auctioned by a Public Storage business in Crestwood. He lost almost everything he owned, replaceable items like books, furniture and CDs. But also irreplaceable ones — his baby photos, family pictures, his brother's high school diploma. Now people from across the country are flooding the News-Leader with offers of help. Their comments arrived in more than 50 e-mails and phone calls, all wanting to do something to help the 20-year-old Army Reserve specialist. One man offered to send Rogalin $1,000 anonymously. Lawyers are lining up to represent him for free. A local woman wants to pay for his textbooks while he's at Missouri State University. http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070111/NEWS01/701110377
From: cool [a;sldkfj]
Date: 11-Jan-2007 12:12
bank account fraudsters seem to have become quite adept at targetting people who are either away for a period of time & therefore less likely to detect the fraud, or are too senile to know what is going on. what a benign twist of fate, now instead of holidaying families or little old ladies falling victim to these ruthless people it is instead the equally amoral willing handmaidens of US aggression who are reaping their karma
From: slippery1wet [Bongo the Clown]
Date: 11-Jan-2007 12:29
Public Storage has announced in a press release that a "mutually satisfactory settlement has been reached", also admitting the treatment of Patrick Rogalin "was inconsistent with their policy" and apologized for the inconvenience and trouble he went through. Whew! I was afraid we were all going to have to start a negative campaign against Public Storage, maybe even killing off the first-born of their corporate officers or something similar. I have a funny feeling the thought of a shit-load of bad publicity is something that may have had some influence on their decision to treat the guy right, whaddaya y'all think?
From: jaybegood [Sir Robin of D'Hood]
Date: 11-Jan-2007 14:18
When I joined the Army in 1966, I made the princely sum of $65.00 a month as a PFC for over a year!!!!!!! When I left as an E-5 (over two) I was making about 400.00 a month. Today they get paid considerably more at those grades. I lived well actually, quite well. By the way, those PVT's who "qualify for food stamps" are the ones who foolishly married and had kids after joining, or were married with kids and didn't do the math before they joined. No one under the grade of E-7 should even consider marriage and kids. By the way, unmarried enlisted in the military get free food, clothing, and housing, that makes your paycheck go pretty far. "If Uncle Sam had wanted you to have a wife, he would have issued you one!"
From: smokey
[krispy]
Date: 12-Jan-2007 08:03
BEING IN THE ARMY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN COOL IF THS ARMY DUDE PLANTED A BOMB IN HIS TV THAT WOULD DETONATE BY A REMOTE.
Updated: 17-Jan-2007 10:28
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