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Egghead Busted
Boston Herald | Submitted by: anonymous
"The Atlanta police officer who arrested a Tufts University professor for jaywalking has contradicted the man’s account, insisting he was in uniform at the time and saying the professor has no one to blame but himself." ... Officer Kevin Leonpacher said if anything, “I used an excessive amount of discretion,” in the encounter that landed Felipe Fernandez-Armesto in jail. See also: Does this guy look like trouble to you?
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From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 13:16
Typical small-minded over-officious oinkery.
From: stripes919 [anal seepage]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 13:25
Looks like the professor doesn't like to obey the rules. I side with the "oinkers' on this one.
From: faqme [faqme]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 13:25
nothing new here southern cops busting spics and niggers... Felipe Fernandez-Armesto is not the first or the last.
From: friend [with Machete]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 13:30
He's got one of them dang hyphen-ated names. Taser him.
From: deathbysnusnu
[{pithy quote installed here}]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 13:31
He was working a part-time job that day - with police consent, his superiors confirmed - for the Hilton Hotel, trying to direct pedestrians to use crosswalks. Wait--was he on duty as a cop or off duty and working for the hotel? Has the Hilton contracted him as a security officer? If so, then arresting people doesn't feel kosher. I don't think its ethical for private companies to put cops on the bankroll as peace officers.
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 13:32
Too bad he didn't get a beat down like normal people would for assaulting an officer. He should be sentenced to 15 seconds as the guest of honor at a police blanket party.
From: lindaofthelake [valkyrie]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 13:34
The truth lies somewhere in-between.
From: teratomarty
[Self-made man]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 13:37
Interesting, in Daredevil's hierarchy of hate, cops are worse than latinos. I would have figured the other way around. "Fernandez-Armesto" actually sounds like a Spanish (as opposed to Mexican or other South American) name to me.
From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 13:48
“I told him, it’s gonna be awful silly if I have to take you to jail for jaywalking,” said Leonpacher, 28. He said he could not handcuff the professor by himself. -------------------------------------------- Yep. It is silly to arrest someone for jaywalking....also silly to be unable to single-handedly cuff a professor.
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 13:54
He was “ swinging, kicking wildly" the only way to cuff him alone would have been to beat his(a professor) ass in front of the Hilton. If he had done that, the headlines would be much different.
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 13:56
I only dislike police when they become petty and entertain delusions of godhood. Furthermore the gentleman in question is an educated Spaniard......unlike the gibberish-spouting, shitskinned, illegal illiterate Mestizos I excoriate on occasion. ps. Queers are the worst though. How can anyone call themselves a man when on their knees with a cock in their throat? I mean really. And 'hate' is not the appropriate terminology to employ......dogshit is to be avoided and may perhaps be repugnant and/or viewed with a degree of disdain. Perhaps the virus-breeders should be pitied. But not hated.
From: doughnutman
[guesswhy]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 14:01
Typical asshole professor on his way to a pompous affair. Should of taken the ticket or said" Sorry officer, I won't do it again." Once again people, you can never win when you argue with the police. If your politics won't let you cater to the man, just consider them hopped up, power crazy lunatics with guns and it is a lot easier to be polite. And then you don't get beat down and thrown in jail for stupid sh*t.
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 14:21
...ps. Queers are the worst though. How can anyone call themselves a man when on their knees with a cock in their throat? I mean really. ... It will be hard to say so out loud, with their mouths full, but I suppose they could write it out if they felt so inclined.
From: doczzz
[dwarf fusion]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 14:28
In the incident report, he quoted the professor as saying, “Well now I believe that you are the police.” Sounds like a genius to me...
From: mikeisgreen
[Mike]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 14:41
"Leonpacher says he was a good representative for the city. He was working a part-time job that day - with police consent, his superiors confirmed - for the Hilton Hotel, trying to direct pedestrians to use crosswalks." How many cops wear their uniforms when renting themselves out? How many cops don't? Who hasn't heard of an arrogant professor? Who hasn't heard of a reasonable one? I'm torn here.
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 14:46
Damn Auldy.......who said you didn't have a sense of humour?
From: nomercy4u [ROD]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 15:04
i have to admit atlanta cops are assholes he should have ran that always makes them donut sucking ass holes happy so just were is are tax dollars going shouldnt he got permission to moon light from the tax payers fuk da police
From: niebelung [oregonian]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 16:12
Looks like an "egghead" would have known to demand to see the cop's badge or ID. Picture looks like a typical liberal who figures laws only apply to "ordinary" people.
From: lordpakul [Lord Pakul]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 16:21
Video of the professor, who has an Oxbridge accent: Click ---> 
From: misterjeff
[(actually it's Steve)]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 16:34
Fuck, what's so bad about jaywalking? If most walk signals at intersections took less than 5 minutes to give you the go I can assure you that jaywalking would happen a hell of a lot less. Besides whenever I jaywalk I do it knowing full well that I could catch my death from a car plowing into me. Shit, who DOES want to wait 5 minutes or more to spend around 20 seconds crossing a street?!
From: ltjackboot
[name]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 17:56
RE:From: lindaofthelake [valkyrie] Date: 10-Jan-2007 13:34 The truth lies somewhere in-between. -Exactly! there's 3 sides to a story, your's, mine and the truth.
From: lindaofthelake [valkyrie]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 17:58
O.K., I just watched about 42 seconds of the video that Lord P. so kindly provided. Little wonder that his ass was handed to him......Can't you just see that wuss laying on his back like a turtle, kicking his wussy little legs, yelling with his wussy little voice?....GOD! I only wish I could be the one to beat him.
From: teratomarty
[Self-made man]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 18:08
One thing you gotta remember: he was jaywalking in Boston. There is no such thing as a walk signal here, not that I've seen, nor crosswalks. You just have to pick a likely-looking gap in the traffic and run for your life.
From: oozingsantorum [Rick Santorum]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 18:37
From: teratomarty [Self-made man] Date: 10-Jan-2007 18:08 One thing you gotta remember: he was jaywalking in Boston. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ But the article said he was in Atlanta. Other than that, great point!
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 20:00
There is no such thing as a walk signal here, not that I've seen, nor crosswalks. You just have to pick a likely-looking gap in the traffic and run for your life. ------------------------------------- Try NYC Marty.......even more problematic.
From: studgerbil
[Stud]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 20:08
Where's morte when you need him? I love policemen ... they have to deal with the scum of the earth on a daily basis and it's a dangerous job. You never know when some well-heeled professor in a tweed jacket with elbow patches will be jaywalking. The prof is lucky he wasn't Tazered. \Kill all pigs now.
From: prettysneaky
[pretty sneaky]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 20:08
From: misterjeff [(actually it's Steve)] Date: 10-Jan-2007 16:34 Fuck, what's so bad about jaywalking? If most walk signals at intersections took less than 5 minutes to give you the go I can assure you that jaywalking would happen a hell of a lot less. Besides whenever I jaywalk I do it knowing full well that I could catch my death from a car plowing into me. Shit, who DOES want to wait 5 minutes or more to spend around 20 seconds crossing a street?! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Whats the big fuckin deal? JayWalking. I do it all the time as well as walk on the grass! Imaginre if the Kops wife or girlfriend drank his last beer! Better yet; how would you like him being your POP?
From: stripes919 [anal seepage]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 22:48
Sometimes while driving I'm tempted to "nudge" jaywalkers with my SUV just to get their attention. Two types of asshats, drivers and pedos.
From: blackpug6 [vugelken]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 23:34
I know for a damn fact Hotlanta cops aren't all bad... Should have been busted several years ago going to a Brave's game. Had an altercation w/ another vehicle and had a cooler full of beer in back of my redneck pickup truck. Also the cooler was open due to malfunction.. . the dude (cop, that is) stuck his head in the window and asked,"whas the problem?"... i made up some bullshit. HE let us go....yes we were drunk. Forgot to tell that my bud in the passenger side got punched in the "altercation"... Atlanta PD ain't that bad............................. Rag on LA some more you pervs.
From: bubbavirus [www.dogbomb.co.uk]
Date: 10-Jan-2007 23:51
jaywalking in Boston. aye, drove there last Summer, big rig, Even dogs know marked crosswalks 
From: hethazur2
Date: 11-Jan-2007 00:22
From: deathbysnusnu [{pithy quote installed here}] Date: 10-Jan-2007 13:31 He was working a part-time job that day - with police consent, his superiors confirmed - for the Hilton Hotel, trying to direct pedestrians to use crosswalks. Wait--was he on duty as a cop or off duty and working for the hotel? Has the Hilton contracted him as a security officer? If so, then arresting people doesn't feel kosher. I don't think its ethical for private companies to put cops on the bankroll as peace officers. *** That's what bothers me about the story too, besides the fact that is insanely petty to go after jaywalkers! Fer Chris-sakes, I jaywalk all the time, but other than that, and perhaps a few more similarly heinous crimes, I am an exceptionally upstanding, all-around good citizen. How can it be that an off-duty cop still has the privileges of being a cop while he is working for a private party? I understand if an off-duty cop gets involved if s/he witnesses a serious crime and intervenes. The idea that he was working for a private party, presumably as a private security guard or traffic director, whatever, with the same rights as your average, barely high school educated security guard you might see at Kmart, but then all of a sudden he can say he is a "real cop" and tazer anyone's ass on the spot and call in the troops does not seem right to me. If he was really bothered by the Prof, surely he could have just put out an APB on his jaywalking ass and left it to the on-duty professionals?
From: morte266
[Old and Tired]
Date: 11-Jan-2007 00:50
Ohh my turn to chime in. Yes we are allowed to wear our police uniforms while working extra jobs. You know all those police officers you see at football games? Those guys are off duty and hired by the arena for security. They have full police powers (police officers are empowered 24/7 as long as they Identify themselves) Regardless of who was paying the bill the cop was enforcing state and local laws, was uniformed, and was just trying to do his job. Besides professors tend to get arrested a lot... they are so used to running over campus security officers ebcause they have tenure that they try the same garbage with police officers and manage to talk themselves right into jail. Same with students... they try some of the stunts they use on campus security and wind up in jail because the police officer was a lot less understanding. I remember a student getting pulled through the driver side window because he refused to get out of the car... I remember one professor getting arrested by Secret Service because he thought he could park in a cleared area just because it was "his spot" with a presidential convoy coming passed in less than five minutes. All of the parking lots on the line of travel are emptied for the convoy of course. Disorderly conduct? the cop was being extremely nice. Disorderly Conduct... resisting arrest.. and probably assault if he actually made contact with an officer while flailing about. BTW he did not get arrested for jaywalking... it was the yelling and carrying on that got him into cuffs. Jaywalking was the reason he was stopped and the reason he started showing his rear. If I stop a person for doing something I'm supposed to prevent and they start showing their rear... guess what? they'll get a disorderly charge, too. If they start swinging? They'll get hit or pepper sprayed and handcuffed. I tend not to call for a lot of backup just so I can be gentle about it... I tend to just be as ungentle as the situation requires and then call for a transport car or an ambulance. The professor was the driving force of the encounter. The officer was reacting to the actions of the professor. The professor could have deescalated at any time. All he had to do was quit showing his ass and move over to the crosswalk. And before you say the officer overreacted, I want you to think about something. Can an officer realistically back off if they stop someone for an infraction? Seriously, can they? The person did the infraction, but starts yelling and acting aggressively... can the officer go "Ok, man, if you are going to act like that then just forget the whole thing." No, they can't. If they initiate the stop they have to see it through to the conclusion, whether that be a warning or an arrest or a shooting. If you don't feel you have enough to make a good stop then you don't initiate a stop, but you can't let the other person dictate the terms of the stop once it is initiated. If you do that then you are practically useless as a law enforcement officer. You are especially useless if you ever have to deal with that subject again, because he already knows he can push you around and will treat you the same the next time you meet. It is like dealing with kids. A police officer is dealing from a position of authority, kinda like a parent is when dealing with their kids. If you confront your kid for doing something you disagree with and they start throwing a tantrum, do you back off and apologize for upsetting them or do you tell them to shut up or they'll get grounded for a week? or spanked if it comes to that. If you back off then what happens the next time you have to confront them?
From: destardi [josh destardi]
Date: 11-Jan-2007 01:13
"DAREDEVIL" How the f*ck do you go from British Prof with Spanish name, to "queer hating"? Latent homo much? ..besides, I know 'queers' who could kick your ass into the ground without trying. I knew a black college BB player for instance...
From: morte266
[Old and Tired]
Date: 11-Jan-2007 01:18
Josh: *lol* The scariest thing I had ever seen as a kid was two very large, grungy, bearded, tobacco chewing, offshore oilfield workers walking down Bourbon Street with their hands in each others back pockets. I doubt if they ever had to worry about getting bashed, though. The each stood about 6 ft and weighed in at well over 200 lbs.
From: nomdeplume [NomDeGuerre]
Date: 11-Jan-2007 03:44
Getting arrested for jaywalking is not going to do much for his street cred... Other than that: Day by day, inch by inch the US are moving closer to becoming a hardcore police state. Sad to watch.
From: kwijibo
[A fat, balding north-american ape]
Date: 11-Jan-2007 06:03
So let's say that Officer Leonpacher sees Professor Godless-Sodomite jaywalking and has the opportunity to stop it. Instead of stopping it, Officer Leonpacher just kicks back and lets our man jaywalk. Seconds later, Prof. Godless-Sodomite is bouncing off the front of a city bus and lands in front of one of the many other vehicles driving down the seven lanes of Courtland St. at that hour of the day. One seriously injured professor and at least two drivers who will be scarred for life. A police officer was previously on the scene and could have prevented the whole thing. Had the cop let this happen, he'd have been called a donut-stuffing lazy pig. Had the cop not let this happen, he'd have been called a donut-stuffing lazy pig. Courtland St. during the day is a fucking zoo. I've stayed in that same hotel. The cop on duty is turning away dozens of people ahead of you and you can't help but notice it. You cannot make it safely across that street without causing a car crash or at the very least a traffic backup affecting lots more people than one lazy professor. Even with a red light, the lanes each move with their own mind. (Picture that stupid kid who jumped in front of the commuter train because another train blocked his view of the next track.) No, our professor saw all of this taking place before his eyes but chose to blunder past the officer and do as he damn well pleased. You see, he's not a sheep who would blindly follow the herd and accept the conventional wisdom. He's special and of course more intellectually aware than anyone else, save his history colleagues. His keen mind is able to cut past the distractions of everyday life. Things such as the proper usage of a crosswalk are of no consequence to him in the intellectual stratosphere. Crosswalks are for the herds. A direct path is for me, the professor, the learned one. I can guarantee you that this cop did indeed derive great satisfaction from dropping this guy to the sidewalk. The irony here is that professional academics are some of the most ignorant people around. They are idiots-savant in one narrow area. Everything else is filtered out by their great minds. Let's thank Prof. Godless-Sodomite for reinforcing the stereotype of the arrogant and detached academic. Let's also thank Officer Leonpacher for thwarting Darwin's subtle hand.
From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 11-Jan-2007 06:07
From: doczzz [dwarf fusion] Date: 11-Jan-2007 02:03 I think everybody will be much happier when Daredevil comes out of the closet. ------------------------------------ Especially Daredevil and his secret friend.
From: lindaofthelake [valkyrie]
Date: 11-Jan-2007 07:41
Morte and Kwijibo, I could'nt agree more. That asshole had it coming.
From: slippery1wet [Bongo the Clown]
Date: 11-Jan-2007 12:59
I've yet to read what the officer was wearing when this happened, the picture doesn't identify anyone in it so we can't assume we know he is or isn't in the pic, the arrestee says the guy was wearing a bomber jacket, are we to assume he's a liar, isn't a liar? Unlike some of you I'm unable to discern the many traits of a person from just one photograph, so I can't say if his attitude was appropriate or inappropriate. (Personally, I think if you think you can tell the guy was an asshole just from the photo you are full of shit, you're just exercising your prejudices against "egg-heads" or whatever) Not a single one of us was there to witness what happened, what was said by who, how anyone was or wasn't dressed, or what anyone's attitude was, so I think we're limited to allowing the system to hash this one out. It's interesting to read how much many of you think you know about this incident and it's participants whether you're on the old perfessor's side or the cop's side. How many of you would want a person like yourself judging YOU? Do you think you'd be judged in a fair & impartial manner?
From: helamau [Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church]
Date: 11-Jan-2007 13:03
To all you scofflaws, a very good reason not to jaywalk. You hustle across the street to save the 5 minutes using a crosswalk would have taken from your oh-so-important schedule. Small child see this, concludes it acceptable behavior and shortly thereafter is adorning the grill of speeding SUV. Now this poor SUV driver has to deal with the cops, insurance and get his bumper cleaned. Try not to be quite so selfish and take the extra 5 minutes.
From: unclepeter [Old Poop]
Date: 11-Jan-2007 17:27
Now let me get this picture straight. One professor on the ground, seven cops and one, what appears to be, orbiting tub of fat. Can we say "over reaction"? Mind you, judging by the "perp's" credentials he could very well have pulled out a pocket dictionary and lay about the officer's ears soundly. Oh well, slow day in Atlanta and bored cop. Bad combination. Now, if Atlanta would only do something about the screaming wingnuts that wander the streets. Ooops, politicians, not wing nuts. Sorry.
From: acrimony
[Room Dz-015]
Date: 11-Jan-2007 20:06
That is one cool-ass teacher. Now I REALLY want to go to Tufts. But alas, the GPA...I do have 98th percentile scores on my SATs though. Ah well, maybe Antioch? Their logo IS an anarchy symbol, after all.
From: 596silverblue [596silverblue]
Date: 12-Jan-2007 06:37
I think the cop did a great job. I'm emailing him at pug4000@yahoo.com to tell him just that. You should all do the same. If you want to call him, his cell number is in the article's comments section as well. Cheers.
From: cool [a;sldkfj]
Date: 12-Jan-2007 15:12
>>>>>From: niebelung [oregonian] Date: 10-Jan-2007 16:12 Looks like an "egghead" would have known to demand to see the cop's badge or ID. Picture looks like a typical liberal who figures laws only apply to "ordinary" people. <<<<<<< i'm sorry but if someone is trying to tell me what to do it is their responsibility to convince me that they have the appropriate authority to be telling me what to do. and if they fail to convince me before i have finished crossing the road or whatever i'm doing that they don't like, then fuck them.
From: cool [a;sldkfj]
Date: 12-Jan-2007 15:51
slippery1wet [Bongo the Clown] said: " you're just exercising your prejudices against "egg-heads" or whatever" precisely. a famous pro-liberty slogan goes something like this: "i may disagree with what you are saying but i will defend your right to say it". it seems that some of the good citizens of the home of the free have retreated so far from this ideal that not only will they fail to defend the right to express views other than their own, but even if someone is not doing anything they themselves would not do, they will take delight in his oppression just because they don't like the look of him. the professor's main crime to some was that he was a frail man, not some bruce willis model of invincibility & machismo. helamau [Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church] said: "To all you scofflaws, a very good reason not to jaywalk. You hustle across the street to save the 5 minutes using a crosswalk would have taken from your oh-so-important schedule. Small child see this, concludes it acceptable behavior and shortly thereafter is adorning the grill of speeding SUV. " it's the parents' responsibility to teach their kids good & safe conduct - and until they have mastered that, to supervize them. nobody should be expected to give up smoking just to keep kids from thinking it is cool. morte266 [Old and Tired] said: " Can an officer realistically back off if they stop someone for an infraction?... It is like dealing with kids. A police officer is dealing from a position of authority, kinda like a parent is when dealing with their kids. If you confront your kid for doing something you disagree with and they start throwing a tantrum, do you back off and apologize for upsetting them or do you tell them to shut up or they'll get grounded for a week?." i'd offer the same advice to police that i would to parents - that your clients/kids will most likely respect you if you show you can be reasonable and have a sense of proportion. if things had gone down like this: officer approaches member of public: "sir, jaywalking is illegal. there is a crossing just up there." member of public continues crossing the street: "fuck off pig" officer to retreating back of member of public: "be careful sir!" what do you really fear? that another member of the public will then cross the street illegally where they previously would not have, just to show their defiance of the cop? the reality is that even the original perpetrator is likely to have to acknowledge to themselves that the officer was had the best interests of the public in mind, and that maybe the officer had a point. the show of force which ensued because of the sort of institutional inflexibility & power-jealousy cited by morte266 is likely to leave not only the original perpetrator but any witnesses with the impression that exerting his own authority was foremost in the officer's mind.
From: johnnybravo [I told u: Johnny Bravo]
Date: 14-Jan-2007 09:57
morte, its sad you actually defend that stupid cop. The fact is that he was ARRESTED FOR JAYWALKING!!! He wasnt wearing an uniform and the prof said he showed no badge at all. On the other hand if i had that crappy part time job surely i would desperately try to seek respect from people in the street.
Updated: 17-Jan-2007 10:28
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