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Making prisoners sleep in shifts
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"With space scarce as the U.S. prison population grows, a top Idaho lawmaker is proposing that inmates share beds by sleeping in shifts, a practice sometimes used by the U.S. military." ... Quote: "I don't have the staff to handle it. If you have an emergency, where do you put people?" ... Also: Checking out early
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From: genitaliaofsatan [Mr. Genitalia to you, pal]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 02:58
A more sensible solution would be to stop jailing people for smoking a plant.
From: guntotingliberal [GunTotingLiberal]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 03:04
Well said, genitals of satan. Maybe we could get away from a system that doesn't work, too. Punishing the fuck out of people hasn't: decreased crime, made people safer or rehabilitated criminals. The penal system is broke and needs to be fixed. However, since there money to be made in housing "free" americans who broke the wrong law that ain't likely to happen folks. Don't break the law and be poor. Land of the technically free, home of the brave. Here is a hint for you, if you are only "technically" free, you aren't free at all.
From: tucanscrew
[three's more fun]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 03:25
The issue arises as Idaho and other states stiffen penalties for drug-related crimes, putting a premium on prison space. Idaho has nearly 7,000 inmates, and that number is growing by nearly 7 percent a year. ================= 7000, what fucking pussies. As of December 2004, the Texas inmate population was 154,702 . The figure has been within 1.1 percent of maximum operating capacity since October 2002.
From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 04:21
Legalize drugs, release drug dealers, and free up space for murderers, rapists, and child molesters. This ain't rocket surgery folks. Ye Gods....I feel like slapping a politician.
From: chickenlittle [IToldYouItWasFalling]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 04:31
In the Checking Out Early article the guy says in the suicide note that his basic right of privacy was being violated by prison staff reading his mail. Why does this sound so vaguely familiar?
From: theodread
[{One More Time}]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 04:44
It is about time this was done. Making the prisoners sleep in shifts will help reduce the number of rapes which occur in the nations prisons. I can understand why they chose shifts too. Shifts are one piece, pajamas are two, so the shifts are less expensive. It is also a matter of respect. Too many of the lessor endowed prisoners were having self esteem problems. Can you imagine the horror? Anyway, I think Tommy Hilfiger got the contract to supply the shifts. 
From: shadowed [Shadow]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 04:47
It's like one big slumber party...yay
From: trawlingnet [mike]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 04:53
So is it Rape if your asleep while it happens? They share bunks on Nuclear subs and no-one would question the sexuality of a red-blooded sailor would they? er er em...
From: evildave82
[the middle finger of fate]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 05:12
Wait, they're almost out of prison space in IDAHO??! I've driven through idaho, nobody fucking lives there! Just fence it off (well, the washington/oregon side anyway; nobody lives in Montana either) and make em free range inmates. "Where the deer and the CPA doing 3 to 6 for embezzlement play..."
From: canadagirl78
[God, make me chaste. But not yet.]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 05:41
George Carlins suggestion, as best I can remember: Build a big-BIG wall around the four square states, since no one lives there anyway. (Again, Carlin's idea, just my reiteration!) Put up big fences in between the states, and let em run free range. Which state you get put in depends on your crime. Rapists and sex offenders in one state, killers in another, and so on. There was more to his idea, but it gets silly, and this part isn't too bad. I think Canada should wall off the Yukon for the exact same thing- let em run, if they can get far enough.
From: gargoyle1
Date: 12-Jan-2006 06:15
Lesse, if they just shot all the child molesters, rapists and murderers and politicians how much room would that free up?
From: tucanscrew
[three's more fun]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 06:17
From: canadagirl78 [God, make me chaste. But not yet.] Date: 12-Jan-2006 05:41 George Carlins suggestion, as best I can remember: Build a big-BIG wall around the four square states, since no one lives there anyway. (Again, Carlin's idea, just my reiteration!) Put up big fences in between the states, and let em run free range. Which state you get put in depends on your crime. Rapists and sex offenders in one state, killers in another, and so on. There was more to his idea, but it gets silly, and this part isn't too bad. I think Canada should wall off the Yukon for the exact same thing- let em run, if they can get far enough. =========== my vote is in for Florida. they can escape to Cuba and give Castro a taste of his own medicine. the only downside I can see to this...without Florida we have to shut down rotten. texas and california pull their own weight around here, but you other guys have to step up to the plate.
From: popo
[insert witticism]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 06:22
Prisons are a growth industry. Keep the economy strong, get one in your town. Be indignant at the crimes being perpetrated by your neighbors. Suggest prison time! Report suspicious activity! Your emails are illegal before you send them. Support the fucking dildo cops and lawyers who work so hard to keep the prisons full and the laws relentless. 3 strikes, you're in for life, and somehow, we're in the money.
From: theallseeingear [Bavid Dyrden]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 07:31
>> "he has received calls from inmate families who like the idea of >> having their incarcerated relatives closer to home " Here's a novel idea: don't break the fucking law.
From: s1mps0n [Smarter Than You]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 07:44
In Political Science circles through out the 90's it was a fairly well developed idea that the Prison Industrial complex that formed during the 80's-90's was a response to the collapse of the Military Industrial complex. Now that military spending is resurgent it will be interesting to see what becomes of our insane prison system. I doubt this country can afford two hogs that large devouring the slop in the trough. Either we will go broke, oops too late, or we will have to cut back on the highest incarceration rate in the world. Amazing we have more prisoners than any other country in the world. Don't believe me? Check this out. [wikipedia.org]
From: popo
[insert witticism]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 08:01
Shit, anything to keep me from sparking up a joint and walking down the safe clean sidewalk to a clean and efficient train station where I can catch a quick ride to anywhere in the country for free, right? Add up the various bullshit wars and incarceration rates and the space programs and I'm sure this would be a totally viable option. Hell, throw in free medical care and an eddiemackation to boot.
From: gwish [gene]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 08:07
...if they just shot all the child molesters, rapists and murderers how much room would that free up? Hmmm...not such a bad idea.
From: gwish [gene]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 08:28
Whats with all the angry pot smokers? I've never been caught with it....here's my five steps to success: (1) Don't buy it from people you don't know. (This should be a no-brainer but I've known people who were caught this way) (2) When it's in the car, obey all traffic laws (no speeding or 'aggressive' driving. And make sure your head lights/brake lights are working) If you cannot do this, you greatly increase your chances of getting busted. (3) Take it home. (4) Keep it at home. (5) Do it at home. If you follow these five easy steps, you too can enjoy a hassle free, weed enriched lifestyle.
From: popo
[insert witticism]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 08:32
YET I don't have any issues with smoking it, none at all. Now the fact that I could be forced to lose my house and use motion lotion to free up bunk space because I choose to smoke a fucking plant, is pretty galling and symbolic of deeper fundamental issues in the way my govt is approaching things.
From: gwish [gene]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 08:37
I agree with you man, but you gotta pick your battles.  Don't worry, it'll be legal one day.
From: gwish [gene]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 09:04
True, however: Your focusing on the negative aspects of the system. If it were made legal, it would likely get stamped with taxes (like alcohol and tobaccoo) Let the individual states see how much tax revenue they would get from marijuana sales and they would never even CONSIDER making it illegal again. See? Money isn't such a bad thing. Something I just realized: If it were legal, would it cost more to buy a bag? I can't help but think that it would. How would you like to pay $60 for a quarter of regular? Fuck that shit.
From: diamonion [poop]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 09:08
This is a great idea! I say to save even more money, we do the same with thier food. Half of all inmates get to eat on even days and the other half get odd! As of December 2004, the Texas inmate population was 154,702 . The figure has been within 1.1 percent of maximum operating capacity since October 2002. Yes, but we have a great way of dealing with overpopulation here in Texas, a sweet dose of murder. Of course I always say the death penalty is the easy way out. Would you rather the guy that kills your family be put to sleep or ass raped and shanked for the rest of his life?
From: gwish [gene]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 09:12
I'd rather see his head blown off directly after conviction. Here's how it should work, Person is convicted of murder (or rape or molesting/abusing children) Person is dragged out behind the courthouse. Person is shot in the head and put down like the dog he/she is. Done...end of story.
From: redrum4all [Perhaps it's a result of anxiety...]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 09:51
I agree with your avoidance procedures, gwish [gene]. But who can only smoke at home? You gotta spark it before a movie or prolonged shopping with the girlfriend. The main rule is: Be alert, watch your ass, people in passing cars have cellphones AND grudges, be discreet and smoke a one hit in the bathroom at the movie theatre and blow it out in the hallway. There are excellent hiding places for your shit, but I can't tell you cause of Big Brother.
From: popo
[insert witticism]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 09:57
In the case of demon weed, it's not necessarily the money, per se; it's to whom it is currently going. Who in their right mind would want to upset such an ideologically important cash cow?
From: marlysfan [Guy Incognito]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 10:12
The issue arises as Idaho and other states stiffen penalties for drug-related crimes, putting a premium on prison space. -------------------------------------------------------------- That's the problem right there. Man, what ever happened to three hots and a cot? Now it's three hots and a third of a cot?
From: canadagirl78
[God, make me chaste. But not yet.]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 10:13
Personally, I believe (theory only) the Gov't doesn't legalize because they know that they can't produce the quality stuff that smokers really want. Here, we have pot decriminalized- just a ticket if you're caught with less than a number of grams (I think it's fourteen, not sure). Still jail if you sell or have lots and lots. Now, the g'vt here won't ever fully legalize, because they tried with medicinal pot, and the potency was crap. The folks that had license to buy the gov'ts stuff weren't- they were back buying from their dealers, cuz the gov't's stuff couldn't get a fly high. They'd restricted the THC content, and no one liked it. No tax money made, the gov't lost out. Boo hoo, I know.
From: doczzz
[dwarf fusion]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 10:13
From: canadagirl78 [God, make me chaste. But not yet.]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 05:41
I think Canada should wall off the Yukon for the exact same thing- let em run, if they can get far enough. *********************** Why? Yukon never hurt anybody... I think they should wall off Ottawa instead...and avoid the transportation costs.
From: tsentsen [tsentsen]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 10:19
Two words...death penalty. I believe the Island of Moloki was used as a leper colony. Throw the fucktards on a plane with a self deploying parachute then boot their asses out as the plane flies over.
From: s1mps0n [Smarter Than You]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 10:37
Everyone seems to think state sanctioned murder is a good way to free up space. While that may work to some degree this is being advocated in a country that wrongly convicts such huge numbers of people it is mind boggling how many innocent people would be killed in a single year.
From: scarfface
[Schmutamongus]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 10:39
Molokai's way too pretty... extremely valuable ranch land there as well. Next door to that is Koolawe, which was a former missile and aircraft bombing range. That would do.
From: gwish [gene]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 12:05
To each his own Redrum...I've smoked for a pretty long time and I've never come close to being caught with it. (knock on wood) More importantly, all the people I have ever heard being busted broke at least one of those 5 rules. A friend of mine got nabbed a couple of months ago; a state trooper pulled him over because one of his brake lights was out. He might have got off with a ticket or even a warning but the cop smelled weed. Turns out he was burning one right before he was pulled over. (see rule #5) Pretty rotten luck though... I mean really, how often do you check your brake lights? Also, there's no hiding shit from the dog. You could put it up your ass and the dog would still find it. (At least I always assumed so)
From: azdollarbill [Jim Jones]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 12:14
Take a page from the Nazis. They stacked sleeping racks about ten high. Or around the same as a submarine sleeping cabin. Or better still, have them sleep standing up. Shifting won't work, if somebody over sleeps, it will screw the shifts all up. People tend to get touchy, when awakened, & tossed out of bed, especially to make room for the next guy. How about Sheriff Joe's idea, of using tents?
From: jhigh [apathy incarnate]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 12:36
Hmm, tough one here. Legalize pot: more smokers here = more people south of the border that are killed in drug lord turf wars. But we'd have more room in our prisons. Dunno the answer to this one. 
From: wulfgartheblack [Wulfgar the Black]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 12:49
By the time they get through arresting me for annoying Rob Wriggler, and him for pressing the 'delete' key, and all the rest of you for reading the wrong book or newspaper, voting for the wrong King, etc. we won't all fit into those 'empty' square states. Here's a thought; Deport us all - send us to the penal colonies in L-5 and Luna. Set us to digging there, making our own homes. There's Historical precedent. England sent her unwanted to N. America and Australia and all those other red countries on old globes. Out of sight, out of mind, out from under foot and too busy trying to scratch a living to make too much trouble [that WAS the thinking]. I'd say, 'Great! Leave the guys in funny hats to make a bigger mess if the homeworld - Fuck-em'. You hear me George, you two-bit egomaniac? Don't throw me in that briar patch!
From: wulfgartheblack [Wulfgar the Black]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 12:54
Oops, 'OF the homeworld' - sorry
From: hurricanefloyd
[I was larger than the Florida Panhandle, you know.]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 13:30
From: doczzz [dwarf fusion]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 02:49
"All those hot, sweaty menz, with no one to turn to but deyselves..." I had my own biting comments to post but fuck it; right from the get-go, Doczzz, yours (the first bloody post!) almost reduced me to tears, so I'm not even going to bother trying to top it. The laugh did me good, surely.
From: canadagirl78
[God, make me chaste. But not yet.]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 14:01
doczz, no, the Yukon never hurt anyone, cuz no one's up there! Although, I must admit I like the idea of the "Ottawa Super-Maximum Penal City". Kinda like Oz, only with more ceremonial weaponry. All the pols could keep the hill (Parliament Hill), and all the other crooks can slum it in the projects. (If you can call semi-poverty and high rent apartments the projects). We'd have to do some good walls, though, cuz Hull, Quebec is literally RIGHT across the river.
From: gwish [gene]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 14:34
Get a load of this: "Hmm, tough one here. Legalize pot: more smokers here = more people south of the border that are killed in drug lord turf wars. But we'd have more room in our prisons" More people south of the border that are killed in turf wars if pot was legalized....What kind of fairy land does this person live in? I can only assume that this was posted by a non-smoker who thinks that people who use "illegal" drugs are a bunch of gun-toting miscreants that will shoot you at the drop of a hat. On top of that, this person believes that if pot is LEGALIZED the violence will escalate? I think the logic train forgot to pick up somebody. I hate to say this, but this sounds like something my mom would say. Come one people, if you don't know what you're talking about, then don't waste your time typing it.
From: rocco
[I'm the funny man!]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 18:22
They do the same thing in the Navy on the subs and for the same reason...not enoguh beds. It's called "hot bunking" and, as the term implies, one sailor hops into the bed RIGHT after another wakes up and before the heat dissipates. BTW canadagirl, it's too bad they can't let loose of the BC for medicinal use there..that's some great shit! That's what folks would want, I'm sure.
From: brainspore [Brainspore]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 20:16
They do the same thing in the Navy on the subs and for the same reason...not enoguh beds. It's called "hot bunking" and, as the term implies, one sailor hops into the bed RIGHT after another wakes up and before the heat dissipates. I heard that the newer submarines are big enough that they don't have to do that anymore? In any case, working out a similar system in a prison would bring up the obvious problem of determining which prisoners will have to sleep during the day and stay awake at night... not a problem on submarines since the crew will rarely see daylight either way. I agree with everybody who suggested letting out the pot smokers to free up space. Funny how the people who want to lock up all the druggies are the same ones who complain the most about paying taxes.
From: modgchi [Che-Che- CHEESE!]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 21:56
I thought I would add... My brother currently resides in an Idaho penn., and those horrible people took away their chocolate milk. Now they only get it on sundays. I thought it was sad.
From: melvin69 [John Bong]
Date: 13-Jan-2006 00:07
Hmm, tough one here. Legalize pot: more smokers here = more people south of the border that are killed in drug lord turf wars. South of the border weed is being phased out. Quite a bit of weed is grown in the states. You have people growing it in the western states' national forests. They grow it in caves in the east. It's much cheaper and easier to sneak illegals in to harvest the crop in the forests right here in the states.
From: melvin69 [John Bong]
Date: 13-Jan-2006 00:11
Oh yeah, so if it was legal, more of it would be grown in the states. Also, more smokers would be growing their own. So 2 reasons that would cut down on imported weed.
Updated: 18-Jan-2006 10:05
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