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Green Eggs and Ham
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"Taiwan, home to the world's first transgenic glowing fish, has successfully bred fluorescent green pigs that researchers hope will boost the island's stem cell research, a professor said on Thursday." ... Quote: "There are partially fluorescent green pigs elsewhere, but ours are the only ones in the world that are green from inside out. Even their hearts and internal organs are green."
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From: jcheese [Johnny Cheeseburger]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 02:42
CANCER AIDS, CANCER AIDS CANCER AIDS CANCER AIDS, CANCER AIDS CANCER AIDS CANCER AIDS, CANCER AIDS CANCER AIDS CANCER AIDS, CANCER AIDS CANCER AIDS CANCER AIDS, CANCER AIDS CANCER AIDS CANCER AIDS, CANCER AIDS CANCER AIDS!!! How many times do I hafta say this shit there are a few more important things than making some slant-eyed farmer's night-fuck easier to find..
From: jcheese [Johnny Cheeseburger]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 02:43
How many times do I hafta say this shit there are a few more important things than making some slant-eyed farmer's night-fuck easier to find..
From: guntotingliberal [GunTotingLiberal]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 03:13
Why doesn't it occur to people that this type of manipulation is bad? Just because we can do something doesn't mean we should. Oh wait, I know why they do this shit- MONEY. To be the first to discover this or find that and get funding, recognition. When did people universally start to believe that the ends justify the means?
From: wibblewobble [Wibble Wobble]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 03:52
Its just a faster way of messing with DNA just like we've been doing for the last few thousand years & called breeding.
From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 04:41
"I will not eat green eggs and ham. I do not like them, Sam I am..." The difference between breeding and genetic engineering is that no matter how hard you try, you cannot breed a pig with fish characteristics....with genetic engineering, you can take two completely disimilar species of life, say a tomato and a bird, and make a hybrid. Frankenstein lives....
From: chickenlittle [IToldYouItWasFalling]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 04:41
This could work on kids too, no more sneaking up on you in the middle of the night.
From: splittheatom
[Assless]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 04:55
They did NOT inject a green protein, the article is wrong. What they did was insert a gene that expresses the green protein into the pig embryonic cells. This gene can be attached to other genes, genes carrying some desired or interesting characteristic, as a genetic marker to easily indicate what cells and tissues the marked gene is being carried/expressed in. That's why they do it; not "just because they can", or to make easy-to-find pigs , or because they like "playing God" or Frankenstein, or just for the novelty of it. And yes, Johnny Cheeseburger, that is VERY pertinent in cancer and AIDS research as well as research on many other diseases that might be treatable with stem cells or gene therapy. Here's a more accurate article: [co.uk] Just once I wish the fucking press would learn some high school level science and tell the whole damn story. Now that would be a true modern miracle.
From: guntotingliberal [GunTotingLiberal]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 04:58
Tucanscrew, Let come down off the soapbox and say...shit you are right! It is, of course, the most awesome pig yet built by man or god. Imagine the cool, creepy glow emanating from the barn. It's Babe on acid. It's Wilbur at a rave with Charlotte weaving a neon red web over his head while japanese kids writhe to techno music pumping from the hay loft. It would be, in a word, fluroporktatsic!
From: tucanscrew
[three's more fun]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 06:36
From: popo [insert witticism] Date: 12-Jan-2006 06:31 ahhh, a new tagging method for 'sex offenders'? =============== and we have a winner for number one use. except we all no I have issues with the term sex offender. how about a tagging method for rapists and chesters.
From: theallseeingear [Bavid Dyrden]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 07:33
>> "fluorescent green fish pose a threat to the earth's ecosystem." fyi: HUMAN FUCKING BEINGS pose a threat to the earth's ecosystem.
From: tucanscrew
[three's more fun]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 08:00
From: theallseeingear [Bavid Dyrden] Date: 12-Jan-2006 07:33 >> "fluorescent green fish pose a threat to the earth's ecosystem." fyi: HUMAN FUCKING BEINGS pose a threat to the earth's ecosystem. ============= You hit the nail on the head my man.
From: teratomarty
[Self-made man]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 08:57
Ok, I know transgenic tinkering may have unintended outcomes, I realise what's happened in the past when humans have applied technology before they understood it properly (helloo, leaded gasoline), but dammit... I want a glowing green Frankenpig.
From: cakefart [Go Shit Yourself]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 09:22
Sorry to add some science into the discussion. People who are used to the usual inane science discussion/reporting might want to leave the room. The 'glowing gene' inserted into the pigs is the genetic engineering equivalent of a print to stdout statement in programming. In the trade jargon, it's called a 'reporter gene'. The reason why reporter genes are important is that it is now ridiculously easy to move single genes with known function(s) in and out of most any organism. The trick is to get the damn thing turned on when and where and at the 'right volume'.(1) That part (figuring out gene regulation) is ridiculously hard. (Off the top of my head, I can think of 20 levels of regulation, and more mechanisms and levels turn up every year) The reporter gene in this case makes it very easy to detect if you've been able to find the 'on switch' and when and where it was turned on. This lets you make some predictions about the regulation of its expression. (1) When it comes to plants and animals, parts is parts is parts. There's next to no difference in the genes different organisms carry around- the difference lies in when, where, and 'how loud' they're turned on. OK, it's safe to be inane again. Please return to your discussions of engineering monsters like ZOMBIE GUARD CACTUS GUARD MEXICAN BORDER!!!. (Real headline from National Enquirer, c. 1981)
From: callboy [Your satisfaction guaranteed, cash only please.]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 09:40
Okay I see the green ham, but where are the green eggs? I want green eggs damn it, and I want them now!
From: venatius [Squid]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 09:57
"You know, Fluorescent Green Pigs would make a great name for a rock group." /davebarryripoff
From: popo
[insert witticism]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 10:02
To all you gene scientists out there, when can we see the insertion of cannabinoid-related genes into sumac, kudzu, dandelion, purple loosestrife and blue-green algae? Okay, and bats.
From: 66scorpio
Date: 12-Jan-2006 10:46
"Abdul, Jocham..turn out the lights to make sure we don't eat the wrong food"
From: zebrabob [zebrabobsgotabigone]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 11:27
green ham and bacon...well, there goes being able to easily tell when the fridge has gone out and the meats turned bad. (there's gotta be some Soylent Green joke to be had here)
From: azdollarbill [Jim Jones]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 12:33
Somehow, I don't see much of a market for glowing green pig meat. Then again, what do I know? I never considered for a moment that the town idiot would be elected president twice. I should read more Nostradamus to see what else is in store for us. Does he mention glowing green pig meat in any of his quatrains?
From: ragnarlodbrok [Shaggypants]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 13:12
Haiku Pork chops glowing green shining through the applesauce Pork, the new 'light' meat
From: melvin69 [John Bong]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 20:42
In 2003, a Taiwan company began selling the world's first genetically engineered fish, sparking protests by environmentalists who said the fluorescent green fish posed a threat to the earth's ecosystem. Um, why? I would think they wouldn't be able to breed very well in the wild seeing that they would be more likely spotted and ate. They don't exist in large enough numbers for predators to favor them over their normal food. If they did replace an existing species, so what, it happens all the time. Sounds like these environmentalists are about as bad as some Christian views on Darwin.
From: melvin69 [John Bong]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 20:49
The thing with the pig though is that they did it for further research, not as a marketing gimmick. That'll probably come later. Love the 2nd pic pakul, it's fitting for her.
From: cheshirecat [James Bong]
Date: 12-Jan-2006 22:37
"To all you gene scientists out there, when can we see the insertion of cannabinoid-related genes into sumac, kudzu, dandelion, purple loosestrife and blue-green algae? Okay, and bats." (Un)fortunately, cannabinoids are rather complex molecules and biosynthesis of them takes several steps. The cannabis plant produces them in special organs (trichomes) so it would be very difficult to engineer into another organism, especially one without these organs. Protein-based drugs would be easier. Something less complicated, modified from simpler, more ubiquitous molecules such as psilocybin would be doable. Come to think of it, I'm surprised it (psilocybin) hasn't been done already. --CC
From: popo
[insert witticism]
Date: 13-Jan-2006 05:55
Hey CC good point on the trichomes. May I suggest the 'shotgun' method of gene transport? Maybe we can get sumac with trichomes after a few thousand gene scrambles? Although I imagine they'd be fairly hard to keep on a bat. Psilocybe/psilocin it is then. Let's try that one with voles. Psychadelic voles!  It'd get the kids back in to nature.
Updated: 18-Jan-2006 10:05
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