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250-Pounds of Public Servant
San Francisco Chronicle | Submitted by: anonymous
"Kelly Medora, a petite preschool teacher who weighed about 118 pounds, went out with a friend in North Beach one Saturday night in 2005 for some fun. Instead, San Francisco police officer Christopher Damonte, who weighed about 250 pounds, arrested her for jaywalking, twisted her arm behind her back and broke it with an audible crack." ... "Assemblyman Mark Leno, D-San Francisco, introduced a bill last year to make police misconduct findings public, but the measure failed after police officers' groups lobbied against it."
Read article... Comments (129)

From: gargoyle1
Date: 12-May-2008 14:11

Ah the secret state police. That woman is lucky she didn't get beatdown with nightsticks and shot for jaywalking.


Tea time in San Fran? Seems it's needed all round the country.

From: choco [UpYourAss]
Date: 12-May-2008 14:17

He's one huge man bitch.

From: studgerbil [Stud]
Date: 12-May-2008 14:17

I will withhold judgment until Morte weighs in on how we simpletons have misconstrued the whole affair.

From: jesussavez [Just hanging around]
Date: 12-May-2008 14:18

Okay, I'm usually pro-cop but come the fuck on. Arrested for jaywalking? Isn't that just a ticketed offense. Sounds like he was an asshole and she was probably a mouthy know-it-all who "knows her rights". Together they almost always end up with citizen in ER.

She'll win in the end but if she approached it differently, she probably wouldn't be needing that Aleve on rainy days in the future.

From: helterskelter
Date: 12-May-2008 14:22

The cop should be "Treated accordingly" as the SS used to say.
(summary execution)

From: other [unclassified]
Date: 12-May-2008 14:23

message is simple, stay off the street. Every officer I have asked lately says there is now zero tolerance and no backing down on any observed infractions, or it is their job on the line. It is not a fun job anymore. Those are their marching orders.

From: aulduron [Aulduron]
Date: 12-May-2008 14:28

I'd let him break my arm for 235k.

From: philth [philth]
Date: 12-May-2008 14:34

cops for fertilizer.

From: morte266 [Old and Tired]
Date: 12-May-2008 14:55

You know.. I've been doing this for 11 years. In that time I've probably went hands on a couple hundred times. In that time period I've only had to take about 5 people to the hospital for injuries and 4 of them were my size or larger than me. the only one who was smaller was wacked out on shrooms and beat his head repeatedly against the screen in my cruiser. I've taken several more tot he ER but they hadn't been hurt and were released without treatment.

I've never had to take a female to the ER after an arrest. I could probably shoot one if I had to, but I've never hit a female in my life.. and have no plans on starting any time in the foreseeable future. I don't threaten violence on females and I most assuredly don't damage females. What a fucking loser.

A spiral fucking fracture? I ahve never seen an officer cause one of those.. jesus I don't even want to know how much twisting force it would take to cause one.. even if she was bird boned it must have taken quite a bit of pressure.

If a 250 lb man can not subdue a person whom he outweighs by a hundred pounds wihtout causing serious bodily injury.. he needs to find another line of work.

Now accidents happen.. and if he would have lost his footing or something and accidentally cause the injury it would be one thing... but it sounds like this fuckhead just has anger management issues.

One of the 3% fuckheads that give the other 97% of us a bad name. Fuck him.

I really really really do not like low down piece of shit bastards that would hurt a female.. goddamn fucking losers.

From: barbarossa58 [Phallus Maximus]
Date: 12-May-2008 14:57

Where was the taser? Breaking arms was so passe in 2005.

From: bungmunch [muncher of bung]
Date: 12-May-2008 15:02

Morte, fascist piggy, get "morte" yourself..quick-like

From: rico [lurker]
Date: 12-May-2008 15:04

Looks like he's wearing cardboard 3-D glasses
in the pic.
Morte- Are those standard police issue?

From: noracejusthuman [Alien From Earth]
Date: 12-May-2008 15:05

Me too, aulduron.
AND..
I know ALL the ortho docs here.

Was that 235 grand TAX free?

From: ohhellno [steve-vo]
Date: 12-May-2008 15:05

This is san francisco

Who knows what could of happened

That the city where all the crazys/nutcases go.

There and florida.

From: cracker666 [honkey Infidel]
Date: 12-May-2008 15:11

Yeah steveo we all know Texas has sweet Law officers and nothing weird ever happens.








The bitch didn't comply!

From: snatchvondrippy [snatch]
Date: 12-May-2008 15:17

some o those who work forces
are the same who burn crosses

From: patsystonecheers [Patsy Stone]
Date: 12-May-2008 15:21

If you enforce jaywalking In New York, you will have to arrest 99% of the population. It's mandatory that you do jaywalk. Anyway seriously, that person is in the wrong profession. He should be fired immediately.

From: sp00k
Date: 12-May-2008 15:54

Chief Heather Fong said at the time that she was developing better ways to identify problem officers.

=====

According to our Internal Police Investigations, we have no problem officers.

From: sp00k
Date: 12-May-2008 15:55

Now move along, nothing to see here.


From: sp00k
Date: 12-May-2008 15:57

Sorry, our SECRET Internal Police Investigations

From: dontspeak [while DS is talking]
Date: 12-May-2008 15:58

Hahaha...I wonder if morte saw this article, sighed, and thought, "here we go again"...

From: dennisisevil [Dennis]
Date: 12-May-2008 16:01

Gee maybe if the piggies treated the terrorists this way we wouldn't have two craters where the twin towers stood. Oh but the piggies don't like it when the other guy has the possibility of wasting their fat ass.

From: skyeyez9 [Marie]
Date: 12-May-2008 16:03

I also weigh 118 pounds with a small body frame. Just to think some 250lb asshole cop twisting my arm until it snapped is fucked up. He deserves to have his face beat to a bloody pulp. There was no reason he needed to use that much force.

From: skyeyez9 [Marie]
Date: 12-May-2008 16:08

I wonder what Fitzpatrick thought about the situation since Damonte wore his jacked and claimed to be Fitzpatrick. Knowing full well she was asking his name to file a complaint against "Fitzpatrick."

From: sp00k
Date: 12-May-2008 16:10

From: skyeyez9 [Marie]
Date: 12-May-2008 16:03

I also weigh 118 pounds with a small body frame. Just to think some 250lb asshole cop twisting my arm until it snapped is fucked up. He deserves to have his face beat to a bloody pulp. There was no reason he needed to use that much force.

=========

jaywalking is a serious offense. Someone could be injured. Like ah,broken arm
or something.

From: heineken [it's beer]
Date: 12-May-2008 16:13

Wow morte, your experiences are facinating. Go eat a dick.

From: studgerbil [Stud]
Date: 12-May-2008 16:14

gee, morte -- how many police officers are there in this country? What's 3% of that total? Is that enough armed, uniformed assholes to cause any serious damage?

From: texasman1000 [texas]
Date: 12-May-2008 16:14

One of the 3% fuckheads that give the other 97% of us a bad name. Fuck him

Hey (Ass Hat) Mort, Rat fucking Bastard... You got that back words.... It's 97% Fuckheads and maybe if were lucky, 3% are kinda all right. All though I have yet to encounter one. Has any one else?

A note to the wise, We out number you, out gun you, and out smart you. Do the math. It's just a matter of time when the shepeople have taken enough and rise to self defence against you.

From: diarrheaomelette [with corn]
Date: 12-May-2008 16:19

$235,000.00 They should take it out of his pension.

From: ferret [Honkey Kong]
Date: 12-May-2008 16:19


er', what me may be finding here, is a case of mistaken body mass.....I mean a dyslexic officer may have interpreted 118 as 811 pounds...happens all the time really

From: studgerbil [Stud]
Date: 12-May-2008 16:25

It just bugs me that morte ONLY posts on threads about bad cops. But that means that he reads every other story, every day, and waits to pounce on the bad cop stories.

Maybe morte is a regular troll on the other threads.

From: snatchvondrippy [snatch]
Date: 12-May-2008 16:33

serve and protect, gerbil

serve and protect

From: tat2dchick [The Tattooed Lady]
Date: 12-May-2008 16:35

Morte, I have to pose this question: Given the nature that you cops have the whole "brotherhood in blue" mentality or whatever, if you had witnessed this incident would you have reported this asshat to his/your superiors?

From: aulduron [Aulduron]
Date: 12-May-2008 16:38

He's posted on plenty of other threads.

From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 12-May-2008 16:39

250 lbs. of Pubic Savant?

From: roaddog [pclynn]
Date: 12-May-2008 16:40

Morte is a ass lickin pc. of wannabe police excrement.
his mother was prolly a convict's ho, so he has a bad
taste for law breakers.
Anyway, cops don't want the public to know what kind of
abusing scum they really are, that's why they scream
foul everytime news wants to publicize their paranoid
unlawful acts towards defenseless folks. I would love
to throw a Jim Jones koolaid party for all of them.

From: deutchbagg [poli]
Date: 12-May-2008 16:42

ppl bitch bout florida all the time, but a taser never broke and arm

From: crapola [Quit_Bitchin]
Date: 12-May-2008 16:44

From: morte266 [Old and Tired]
Date: 12-May-2008 14:55

What a fucking loser.

A spiral fucking fracture? I ahve never seen an officer cause one of those.. jesus I don't even want to know how much twisting force it would take to cause one.. even if she was bird boned it must have taken quite a bit of pressure.

###

Not really morte. Spiral fractures are commonplace in child abuse cases. It is a simple case of using the victims force against themselves. For example, fucktard pushes victim in one direction and wrenches the arm in the exact opposite direction. Or in this case, the fucktard uses the vic's weight as an anchor as he twists her arm, something akin to an arm bar. Something's gotta give.

______
"Meanwhile, Damonte has filed a $1 million lawsuit against the city, saying Fong unfairly disciplined him for his part in the Bayview police videos."

###

This guy is incredible. (white glasses? kinda suspect.)

From: archangel [Frank Alverio]
Date: 12-May-2008 16:58

Seen a picture of the guy and he "feels" like a bully

Bet he thought she was cute and figured that was the only way he could get some S&M thrills while feeling her up

From: studgerbil [Stud]
Date: 12-May-2008 16:59

You know the answer to that question, tat2dchick.

Maybe the problem isnt the "3% of the bad cops who make the other 97% of us look bad", but the 97% of the good cops who look the other way when the bad cops fuck up.

Gotta get along to go along, right morte?

From: abluecommunist [Red is for republicans, dammit!]
Date: 12-May-2008 17:05

</policestate>

/guns, ammo, rope, etc.

From: tat2dchick [The Tattooed Lady]
Date: 12-May-2008 17:25

Yeah, we all know the answer Gerbil. I'm just curious as to how honest Morte wants to be with us. Dollars to donuts he doesn't answer.

From: sawgunner [Doug]
Date: 12-May-2008 17:28

It's San Francisco, so who really gives a rats ass? The car exhaust from all over the world must accumulate there by some natural force, thus making everyone in the city retarded.

C'mon San Andreas, let's see what you can REALLY do!

From: ferret [Honkey Kong]
Date: 12-May-2008 17:45

The 3-D Glasses Are Clear and Indellible Proof That Damonte Had Just Seen The BlockButtBuster Film, "Homocop: He's Hard On Crime"

-uh, yes, now what are your Prime Directives?

"1.)Service The Pubic Elephant Trunk"
"2.)Protect The Sphincter"
"3.)Uphold The Cock"

From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 12-May-2008 17:53

Matt Dorsey, spokesman for City Attorney Dennis Herrera, said the officers in the Medora case did nothing wrong........
-------------------------
So breaking arms is an appropriate response to jay-walking? Who even cares about jay-walking? Seriously, the only time that particular ticket should be issued is if some idiot steps out in front of a car. Nice to know that brutality is considered the right course of action for non-violent offenders.

And I'm glad to see that everyone else is onto Morte and his "the police are really misunderstood good guys" routine. It's a great steaming crock of shit and we all know it.

BTW, I still hate the police.

From: ventrman [Hitthegroundrunning]
Date: 12-May-2008 17:58

The following is an excerpt from the article.
"Matt Dorsey, spokesman for City Attorney Dennis Herrera, said the officers in the Medora case did nothing wrong, and the city settled only to avoid a potentially more costly jury verdict."

I wonder, do they really expect us to believe that statement?
That is a bunch of Bullshit.

The reason the City settled is because they knew it would cost them a lot more if they went to court. There is nothing potential about it. It is a fact that they would have had their collective asses handed to them.

From: patsystonecheers [Patsy Stone]
Date: 12-May-2008 18:13

I don't know why, but in California jaywalking is a big no-no. One time I was walking with a friend of mine to the 3rd Street Promenade in Santa Monica and we stopped at the light. There were no cars at that moment on the street so I began to cross, light or no light. My friend pulled me back and said that they give jaywalking tickets to everyone on this "hot" intersection.

From: patsystonecheers [Patsy Stone]
Date: 12-May-2008 18:31

I think that when the police do something bad it is always in the papers. When police do something good you never hear about it.

Every article Duder posts here is about something bad the police did. We all submit terrible and tragic articles. I doubt Duder would post an article about a police officer who saved the lives of four people in a burning car while simultaneously delivering triplets on the side of the road. This isn't the soft n' fluffy website, this is rotten.

I like reading Morte's posts. I find what he says very interesting. I think it's great that there is a police officer on the Rotten Forum. How cool is that? After all, how boring would this be if everyone agreed on everything. I think he is one of the good guys who expresses his opinion with informative information.

From: philth [philth]
Date: 12-May-2008 18:42

I'm being hunted by paleface in blue
and these cracka' spooks are haunting you too
With municipal shovels they're out digging our graves
Under threat of reprisal we abide to enslave

Policia, policia; why can't you see
Your bullets will never pacify me
I don't fight the world; the world fights me
Cause the gang in control is the fucking P.D.

(That's right)

Fuck the police they're gang control
We've gotta take it back
Everyone get up and let's go

Your politics spawn politikill
I'll take a bullet to prove that you kill
You front the facade of a righteous man
But the hole in your heart put a gun in your hand

Protecting the money and out serving the state
Crushing the people with the laws they created
Nothing forgotten and nobody saved
You can not break me, force me to behave

Fuck the police they're gang control
We've gotta tear it down
Everyone get up and let's go
around the globe it's outta hand
from the states out to iran
across the ocean, back again
England, Zaire and Japan

Fuck the police they're gang control
We've gotta tear it down
Everyone get up and let's go
Individuals who hate man
With king's license to clean the land
Fill the army with one way laws
Around the world to suit their cause

From: absintheredux [Green Death]
Date: 12-May-2008 18:43

Damonte, of course, won't have to pay for the damages, the
taxpayers will.

****

Note that Officer Damonte is already in the hot seat for
his part in the so-called Bayview police videos scandal.

Those "training" videos would be perfect entertainment on
DR, but hardly a good idea for a PD.

Link to one video is in the the following article.
(maybe more).

Not "evil-evil" but abysmally stupid.

http://tinyurl.com/3ugk8r

****

Police malfeasance is now kept under wraps thanks to a Cal
Supreme Court Decision:

Copley Press, Inc. v. Superior Court

"In a recent California Supreme Court decision (Copley Press v.
Superior Court), the Court shut out the public's access to police
records and hearings, in essence drawing a cloak of secrecy over
police conduct.

We think this secrecy damages police/community relations, decreases
public trust, and leads to unaccountable police departments.

There is a fix, though. Two bills have been introduced in the
California Assembly and Senate to restore civilian oversight,
effectively overturning the Copley Press decision".

From: absintheredux [Green Death]
Date: 12-May-2008 18:48

Patsy, almost none of the articles found on Daily Rotten are
about anyone doing a good thing.

I believe that's what the nature of this forum and its reason
for being :)

From: patsystonecheers [Patsy Stone]
Date: 12-May-2008 19:10

GD,

That's my point. All articles here are rotten. I love and adore it because it's rotten. I also adore all you guys here because your all rotten. I think some people get carried away and forget that Duder intentionally posts the rotten one-sided news that we all love. :)

From: gargoyle1
Date: 12-May-2008 19:13

People do good things? Sick fucks.

From: smokey [krispy]
Date: 12-May-2008 20:10

i have no respect whatsoever for the pigs, because they have no respect for citizens who pay there saliries with our tax money. they cause nothing but trouble, and are beyond fucking worthless. they should be thrown feet first into wood chippers. then their shredded remains dumped into soil to grow marijuana plants.

From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 12-May-2008 20:19

Smokey, that may be the best use of police compost ever proposed.....

Kudos!

From: inhalien [Chevy Chase]
Date: 12-May-2008 20:34

Here's how the bull dyke police in my home town treat 100 lb young girls that "threaten" them.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/01/22/bc-tethering.html

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080123/Victoria_teen_080123/20080123/

From: mencken
Date: 12-May-2008 20:58

"If you're going to San Francisco
be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
If you're going to San Francisco
your gonna meet some gentle people there."

(As well as arm-breaking control freaks, I'm afraid)

From: absintheredux [Green Death]
Date: 12-May-2008 22:08

Patsy, I was agreeing with you.

I am afraid that some people begin to believe that Rotten
is a true and accurate representation of the World.

A bit like an "occupational bias" :-P

From: studgerbil [Stud]
Date: 12-May-2008 22:36

GD, most of the world is rotten, or nearly so. Starvation, overcrowding, pandemic disease, despotic leaders ... these are the norms on three continents full of over half the world's population.

From: morte266 [Old and Tired]
Date: 12-May-2008 22:58

I actually got a laugh at all of the posts directed towards me.

Did any of you actually read my post? I suggest going back and re reading it if you didn't.

I just think it is fricken hilarious that I get more flames when I say "This officer is in the wrong and needs to find another profession" than I do when I say that the officer in question was justified.

*snicker*

Someone above (I'm not gonna bother checking who) asked if I would report someone for doing this type of shit.. The answer is a simple yes. I fricken hate bullies.. and I especially hate it when any man would hurt a woman without extreme justification. I was raised to be respectful to women and be extremely protective of women and children. If I had been there when this happened it is possible that Mr. Bully would have been bounced off of a patrol car or two... but then he would ahve probably known my views on it before hand and wouldn't ahve done it in my presence. My ex Step father used to hit my mom... and no fucking guy is going to hurt a girl or a kid in my presence without a confrontation. Period.

I've gone hands on many times in my career... but I've never done it for any other reasons than effecting the arrest or protecting myself or others. That's it. I only fight when I have to. I might also mention that I've told other officers on two occasions that if they felt froggy the could hop on over at any time... They decided, probably wisely, that it was in their best interest not to.

From: studgerbil [Stud]
Date: 12-May-2008 23:03

So, have you ever reported a fellow officer for abusing his authority, morte?

From: morte266 [Old and Tired]
Date: 12-May-2008 23:27

Nope. but then again, my views are widely known in my squad.. and I'm pretty sure that if they were tempted to do something like that they'd make sure I was no where near the scene.

That being said it just isn't likely to happen in the team I work in.. or the Department I work in, actually. The team: most of us have been working together for over 5 years. We lose a guy here or there (transfers other jobs, etc) and get a cherry to replace him, but we fit that person in the team or he doesn't last. He doesn't get fired or run out, but if he doesn't fit in he usually leaves because he knows we won't tolerate bullshit. Our team has one of the lowest turn over rates in the department. We also have almost no excessive for complaints.

Backing that up is a Department that considers their officers guilty until proven innocent and cameras in all the cars. with remote mics connected to the cars on the gunbelts.

To the best of my knowledge we've never had to take a woman to the hospital because of excessive force by an officer.Or a child.

Males? now that is another story entirely, but the last time I've been on a call where the Officer was way out of line was about 9 years ago.. and the officer in question hasn't been employed here in 9 years.

Things could be different in other teams (precincts).. I dunno *shrug* I can only attest to what happens here.

From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 13-May-2008 00:46

From: absintheredux [Green Death]
Date: 12-May-2008 22:08

Patsy, I was agreeing with you.

I am afraid that some people begin to believe that Rotten
is a true and accurate representation of the World.

A bit like an "occupational bias"

-------------------------------------

GD.......You can bet your bum I shall not number amonsgst such as those whom appreciate a true and accurate reality as 'rotten', to justify the very codes of Hammurabi hisself!

But then perhaps again; I anunciate with precipitous rapidity the logic of the dedicts of Justinian. Augustinian, Aquinous, Pliny, Plutarch.

Fuck it.....easier to read Hemmimgway with his five word sentences than struggle through Tergenev or Hesse.

From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 13-May-2008 00:59

And yes.......scumbag oinkers need drummimg out of public service in large order if they abuse their discretion.

But when some n1gger rips off your shit, or is raping your bitch.......and you are too fucking stupid not to own a gun to remove his head from his shoulders..............who ya gonna call?




I have a sneaking feeling the NAACP won't be overly helpful.






Here's to DECENT cops...........and fuck the rest.

From: rottenand [peeling]
Date: 13-May-2008 02:13

up on Embarcadero in the hills are some dangerous intersections with fast traffic. its a foot friendly city but everyone knows that you may not jaywalk there.

From: other [unclassified]
Date: 13-May-2008 04:30

Sounds like that officer was not too smart. 30 years back, in NY if someone became a casualty during an arrest, they were said to have left town. No problems, no repercussions.

From: morte266 [Old and Tired]
Date: 13-May-2008 05:03

Crapola:

Yeah I know that spiral fractures are somewhat common in child abuse cases... I've worked a few.

But there is a huge difference between the still forming bones of a 3 to 5 yr old and the fully formed bones of an adult.

Besides according to the story he didn't use her body motion to do it.. he just twisted the arm til it snapped... that is a lot of fricken pressure. You are basically twisting the arm until the bone breaks lengthwise.

From: siing9 [Singing]
Date: 13-May-2008 07:33

she ain't the only one who got her arm broken, i know other people who've got things( fingers, cell phones, noses, etc.) broken up by shitty SF cops

she only got money because the shit cop was already DOCUMENTED on video

otherwise she will be lucky if the cop didn't harrass her and arrest her and send her to jail on false charges, happens all the time

lucky bitch

From: eyestone [ofthecircledtrees]
Date: 13-May-2008 07:37

I'm kind of disappointed in (not surprised by) the knee-jerk reaction of the city's attorney. I know it's his job to minimize liability, but as it's said: When you're stuck in a deep hole, it's wise to stop digging.

With that said, it is also clear to me that police forces tend to attract characters like the 250 pound shitbird of our merry tale. Let's be honest - it's the _only_ job in modern society where you're expected to be violent at times. Not that every copper is a bastards, but me thinks that violent bastards get away with being violent bastards, when they as coppers kick the shite out of 'criminals'. And, of course, get their kicks in the process.

Which could bring me on to why outright sociopaths seem to thrive in the Special Forces, but that's a story for another day.

From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 13-May-2008 08:04

Gracious, Morte, you have the bestest precinct EVER! Do you honestly expect us to believe that out of all the policing agencies in the US, most of which abuse their power, that yours is beyond reproach?

*ROFLMAO*

Good one, Morte! Keep those knee-slappers comin'!

From: sp00k
Date: 13-May-2008 08:10

From: patsystonecheers [Patsy Stone]
Date: 12-May-2008 18:31

I think that when the police do something bad it is always in the papers. When police do something good you never hear about it.

=========

Because someone doing what they are paid to do is not news. (yet).

From: sp00k
Date: 13-May-2008 08:15

From: morte266 [Old and Tired]
Date: 12-May-2008 23:27

Nope. but then again, my views are widely known in my squad.. and I'm pretty sure that if they were tempted to do something like that they'd make sure I was no where near the scene.


=========

Sure thing Morte. We all know what happens to whistle-blowers. You don't have to
be a cop to figure that one out.

From: jesussavez [Just hanging around]
Date: 13-May-2008 09:00

From: sp00k
Date: 13-May-2008 08:15

From: morte266 [Old and Tired]
Date: 12-May-2008 23:27

Nope. but then again, my views are widely known in my squad.. and I'm pretty sure that if they were tempted to do something like that they'd make sure I was no where near the scene.


=========

Sure thing Morte. We all know what happens to whistle-blowers. You don't have to
be a cop to figure that one out.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Nothing happens to them. Most cops hate it when assholes pull this shit off. It makes it more difficult for the regular cops to do their job. It also makes it more dangerous.

Example, Norvelle Brown, 22, rookie.



Guy grew up in the neighborhood and wanted to be a cop that made a difference. He was known for trying to get through to the youth. Volunteered his time working with them. Then one night while answering a call, some punk walked up to him and shot him. Why? Because he was a cop. And that attitude is prevalent due to actions by officers like Damonte.

Now, I'm not a cop but have several friends who are. And I have worked with them in the past regarding things I'd rather not get into now. You can either belief me or not. I was also a smart ass youth who sometimes drank to much and didn't know when to stfu. Therefore, I have been on the receiving end of "police brutality" more than once. I also know I was partially to blame for it. This taught me something. There are times when you fight with your mind and sometimes you fight with your fists/mouth.

There are bad cops out there. Maybe it's 3%, maybe it's 10%. They are not the majority. But creating this attitude of fear and intimidation doesn't help. Their are dickheads everywhere in life. Try dealing with someone when the first thing out of their mouth is a slur to you. I'm going to bet that you are going to be on the defensive.

I think the police shouldn't be asked to force half the laws they do but that is another story. Jaywalking? I think the penalty for that is being run over if you get caught by a car.

From: davedou [david dou]
Date: 13-May-2008 09:00

Firstly , why the hell didnt they do this with those fucking dirty free tibet scumbags necks? our chinese boys in blue apparently did so in london. Secondly, I since its the SF police, that guy was probably used to handling larger men , if you get my drift

From: sp00k
Date: 13-May-2008 09:10

From: jesussavez [Just hanging around]

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Nothing? Bullshit. Turn in another cop and your career is over. They're harassed by superiors and fellow cops. Even pigs hate narcs.

From: tat2dchick [The Tattooed Lady]
Date: 13-May-2008 09:21

Hey, I really don't have anything against cops. Yes I've had a few incidents where the cop was being an unreasonable asshole, but I honestly believe that most cops are good people just trying to do their very dangerous job.

I think the real problem is that too many of the good cops are unwilling to snitch on the bad cops. I also think Morte is full of shit when he says he'd report a bad cop for being bad. It's that whole brotherhood in blue, stick-up-for-each-other-no-matter-what mentality that seems to be so deeply instilled in them. On the flip side, I can also see where that type of thinking can benefit cops on the job - how much harder would you fight to save your brother's life, as opposed to some asshole you work with who snitched on your brother for some infraction?




Christ I hate getting older. The world is so much less black-and-white, and lots more shades of gray with regard to right and wrong. I truly miss the easy answers of youth.

From: misterjeff [(actually it's Steve)]
Date: 13-May-2008 09:32

From: tat2dchick [The Tattooed Lady]
Date: 12-May-2008 16:35

Morte, I have to pose this question: Given the nature that you cops have the whole "brotherhood in blue" mentality or whatever, if you had witnessed this incident would you have reported this asshat to his/your superiors?

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Nope. but then again, my views are widely known in my squad.. and I'm pretty sure that if they were tempted to do something like that they'd make sure I was no where near the scene.

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Great cop-out Morte, all you really just said is you are indifferent to the whole matter and all your cop cohorts know enough to whup/Taser/baton anyone while Morte is nearby, but its all good in the 'hood if you are not around to see it.

From: scarfface [Schmutamongus]
Date: 13-May-2008 09:49

A really close friend of mine is one of the good cops. I mean, an amazingly
good cop. How good? He's SO good, that he knows everything that's going on
around the entire department, even when he's not there.

From: skyeyez9 [Marie]
Date: 13-May-2008 09:57

Try putting your arm behind your back and have somebody raise it till you feel pressure. It doesn't go very far before it hurts....maybe 2-3 inches but this asshole yanked her arm up to her EAR! He had every intention to break her arm because it does not take rocket science to know limbs aren't meant to be twisted that far without damage.

...........
Besides according to the story he didn't use her body motion to do it.. he just twisted the arm til it snapped... that is a lot of fricken pressure. You are basically twisting the arm until the bone breaks lengthwise.

From: johncobb1972 [john]
Date: 13-May-2008 10:12

reminds me of an episode of COPS I just watched. They chased a guy down and when they caught him he had both arms up in the air...The next clip was the same guy in front of the judge but he had his arm in a cast and sling. Nobody seemed to notice. LOL!

From: kuzzy [Kuzzy]
Date: 13-May-2008 10:33

From: johncobb1972 [john]
Date: 13-May-2008 10:12

reminds me of an episode of COPS I just watched. They chased a guy down and when they caught him he had both arms up in the air...The next clip was the same guy in front of the judge but he had his arm in a cast and sling. Nobody seemed to notice. LOL!

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In the words of Chris Rock "Dont run from the cops, because if they have to chase after your ass, theyre bringing and ass kicking with them"

From: kuzzy [Kuzzy]
Date: 13-May-2008 10:42

Despite what the losers in here who seem to have it in for Morte say, I believe what he says in here due to the fact that friends of mine who are cops say the same thing. Youre going to find assholes in every single profession no matter where you go, and police officers are no exception. Id be willing to bet that the woman who got her arm broke was a little princess who happened to mouth off at a piss poor cop who was having a bad day that day, and she got the short end of the stick. In short Ive said it before and Ill say it gain, stop being a dick and not only do you lessen your chances of being hassled by cops but of being hassled by people in general.

From: sp00k
Date: 13-May-2008 11:08

From: kuzzy [Kuzzy]
Date: 13-May-2008 10:42

Despite what the losers in here who seem to have it in for Morte say, I believe what he says in here due to the fact that friends of mine who are cops say the same thing.

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Assholes seem to be particularly attracted to that profession. The quandary is, if you want to be a cop, you probably shouldn't be.

From: skyeyez9 [Marie]
Date: 13-May-2008 11:10

There are alot of asshole cops because bullies tend to gravitate towards jobs that give them power. Same reason pedos become teachers and find other jobs that surround themselves with children.

From: docworm [an actual worm]
Date: 13-May-2008 11:13

God, I hate these "I know my rights" snobs - should have smashed her know it all head in too

From: sp00k
Date: 13-May-2008 11:28

It always makes me laugh when cops say they wanted to be cops so they could help people. If they wanted to help people they would have joined the fire dept, been a paramedic or joined the Peace Corps. Being habitual lairs, they will never admit it's because they love the power, being able to stomp helpless suspects gets em off, and it pays better than flipping burgers at McD's.

From: roaddog [pclynn]
Date: 13-May-2008 11:34

I know I rattle on about BAD cops pretty fiercely.
I also want to say that I also know there are some
damned GOOD cops too. I wished the bad ones didn't
leave a smear on the good ones. If a cop shows me
respect, then he gets the same. I've had a few who
want to see how short my fuse is and it really has
nothing to do with why I'm being detained. This is
the shit I'm speaking of.
Morte..........don't think I hate you cuz I don't.
You sound like a very reasonable person most of the
time. It's the slime buckets that brings the walls
around us down and then everyone wants to rage on
that. I read it all the time on badcopnews dot com.
I'm truly amazed how these people got into law
enforcement. You know they won't have an easy time in
prison unless they stick them with the homo's, snitches
and weaklings that have to be protected. Not every road
is paved with good intentions.

From: fucktardmama [fook-me]
Date: 13-May-2008 11:39

From: kuzzy [Kuzzy]
Date: 13-May-2008 10:42

Despite what the losers in here who seem to have it in for Morte say, I believe what he says in here due to the fact that friends of mine who are cops say the same thing. Youre going to find assholes in every single profession no matter where you go, and police officers are no exception. Id be willing to bet that the woman who got her arm broke was a little princess who happened to mouth off at a piss poor cop who was having a bad day that day, and she got the short end of the stick. In short Ive said it before and Ill say it gain, stop being a dick and not only do you lessen your chances of being hassled by cops but of being hassled by people in general

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Kuzzy,
I agree. In my experience both in court ('cus of bounced check) and taking people from my 12 Step groups for court appearences, I have noticed some things. The people who bitch the loudest about cops (I am NOT talking about blatent brutality, but in general) are the ones who act like total and complete douche bags when they get arrested for doing something wrong.

The ones from 12 step are a fucking gem. They will get in the car with me and tell me about the fucking cop, fucking judge, who the fuck do they think they are. Then the charges against them come out: DWI, drug possession, assault,robbery, stealing, welfare fraud, you get the general idea.

Then it is amazing. For the most part, the longer people stay sober and off the drugs, when they get in trouble or when something in the past catches up with them it is usually, "crap I have to pay for what I did". Or they will share how they got pulled over for speeding and didn't have to fight with the cop.

I agree though there are asshole cops. There are asshole teachers, there are asshole store owners, there are asshole garbage men, ect. ect. ect.

From: kuzzy [Kuzzy]
Date: 13-May-2008 11:54

Id be willing to bet money that those on here screaming that ALL cops are assholes, ALL cops should be shot, Blah blah blah. Id be willing to bet you have done at least one if not ALL of the following.

1 Thrown an empty beercan, beer bottle, cigarette carton or some other piece of trash into someones front yard while driving down the road.

2. Blabbered on a cell phone while in a movie theater.

3. Cut someone off in traffic then slammed on the brakes so you didnt miss your exit

4. Ignored a no smoking sign, and smoked because you felt it was your "right"

5. Shop lifted because you felt the store prices were too high, probably filled up your car with gas and drove off without paying too.

6. Left a restaurant without leaving a tip even though you received excellent service.

Why do I KNOW youve done at least one of the above? Because you are a cock sucking asshole who thinks the world revolves around you. Then when you get called on being an asshole by someone in law enforcement you cry "victim". Why? because like I said, you are an asshole who thinks the world revolves around YOU and YOUR whims and desires and feel that rules dont apply to you. In short stop being an ass and start being more considerate of your fellow human beings and see how they treat you then.

From: tubgirl8000 [Steve Khan (Shaka's Brother)]
Date: 13-May-2008 11:57

If mobsters put hits out on dildos like this, they could help improve their p.r.

From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 13-May-2008 11:58

Police just want you to THINK their job is ultra-dangerous and that this justifies their nasty attitude and brutality.

10 Most Dangerous Jobs in the US.

Rank Occupation Death rate/100,000 Total deaths
1 Logging workers 92.4/85
2 Aircraft pilots 92.4/109
3 Fishers and fishing workers 86.4/38
4 Structural iron and steel workers 47.0/31
5 Refuse and recyclable material collectors 43.2/35
6 Farmers and ranchers 37.5/307
7 Roofers 34.9/94
8 Electrical power line installers/repairers 30.0/36
9 Driver/sales workers and truck drivers 27.6/905
10 Taxi drivers and chauffeurs 24.2/67

http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/26/pf/jobs_jeopardy/

From: kuzzy [Kuzzy]
Date: 13-May-2008 12:01

History has shown time and time again, that those who demand respect the loudest deserve it the least. If youre truly deserving of respect you usually have to give it as well, and more often than not its given right back to you.

From: tat2dchick [The Tattooed Lady]
Date: 13-May-2008 12:07

Well said Kuzzy.


One has to wonder, Bella, why you have such a grudge against cops. Care to share? What specific incident(s) have led you to such bitterness?

From: jesussavez [Just hanging around]
Date: 13-May-2008 12:14

Meh, this is like the old adage about arguing on the internet.

You guys keep your attitudes and I'll keep mine. When a cop confronts me for any reason, I treat him like any other man until he gives me reason not to, with respect. If I don't get it back, I know he's an asshole. I handle what ever situation I am involved in at the moment and will take it up with the department at a later date. Ninety-five percent of the time, I get my respect and quite often get off with a warning and a handshake.

Your fighting the power is misguided and the true enemies wear suits.

From: sp00k
Date: 13-May-2008 13:18

And the 11th most hazardous thing to do.....get stopped by a cop

From: kuzzy [Kuzzy]
Date: 13-May-2008 13:33

How many times have you been injured after being stopped by a cop?

From: pontius
Date: 13-May-2008 13:36

Guess who'd soil himself if being stopped by a cop...

From: sp00k
Date: 13-May-2008 13:49

Just haven't been stopped by one having a bad day. yet. And I'm white and drive
a nice car, seems to make a big difference. Last time was by Highway Patrol,
he was very professional, pretty much what I expect from any public servant. The other time was by a city Cop downtown because it was later at night and he was fishing for drunks. He claimed he pulled me over because my tags were going to expire. In a month. That guy was a smart ass little prick. Have you ever tried filing a complaint with any PD? They don't like it very much.No matter what the complaint is, they treat you like you're the criminal.

From: sensuous
Date: 13-May-2008 13:53

Spook, just admit it.. you're bad aren't you :)

From: sp00k
Date: 13-May-2008 13:56

From: sensuous
Date: 13-May-2008 13:53

Spook, just admit it.. you're bad aren't you :)

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Yeah, I like to throw garbage on peoples lawns and stuff.

From: sensuous
Date: 13-May-2008 14:03

Yeah, I like to throw garbage on peoples lawns and stuff.

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You're a garwalker...

From: sp00k
Date: 13-May-2008 14:07

Yep, a serial garwalker. I just can't help myself. (Actually I was just throwing the crap back into the neighbors yard, where it came from in the first
place)

From: chinnuts [Got Three For Ya]
Date: 13-May-2008 14:09

I do love the police brutality threads. It always brings the eternally
amusing, epic, one sided tard battles to make me smile.

I know plenty of cops. Most, back from northeast Ohio and a few that I've
met professionally in Florida. Like any slice of the pie of humanity, there will always be some fecal matter. I'll say it's a career that could never pay enough or give my selfish ass enough altruistic satisfaction to pursue. They
have too many laws to enforce and if they don't, an officer could lose their
job or even be prosecuted. It's their job. If a ditch-digger only dug the six foot ditch to five feet, the job would not be complete.

For the most part I agree with kuzzy on the moroff's that hate cops. But
kuzzy forgot one: They also get stupid, on a regular basis, on six pack
after six pack of "instant asshole".

As a young man in the 80's, I was arrested over 100 times for solicitation, and not once was I mistreated or roughed up. I wasn't even handcuffed.

That said; this concrete head of a cop is an asshole.

From: ohhellno [steve-vo]
Date: 13-May-2008 14:53

Cracker I cant really argue with your there

Small Texas towns are nightmares when it comes to police.

My birth town, Refugio is the richest county in the state.
The town itself looks like a piece of dried up shit.

But guess how they get all that money.
Ticketing people for 1 mile over speed limit, and constantly pulling over people who even remotely might be carrying drugs.
Find anything that remotely might be drug related, and seize,and sell their car.


So If your ever in south Texas, I recommend staying way from that one.

From: sp00k
Date: 13-May-2008 15:01

Medora said she phoned police from Kaiser to file a misconduct complaint, but no one responded.

Instead, an officer delivered a new citation for resisting, delaying and assaulting an officer. The charges were later dismissed.

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Nice touch. Gotta love the delaying and assaulting an officer bit.

From: siing9 [Singing]
Date: 13-May-2008 18:36

funny real world facts:

1, cops gets ticked off when you say
"I want a lawyer" and "what are you arresting me for?"

2, if you call 911 and complain after a cop has beaten you up, the same cop who've just beaten you up shows up

3, you can get arrested anywhere, anytime, for any reason once some cop has you on his radar and wants to play with you. you can get arrested for "trespassing" and "possession of a dangerous weapon" while you are getting your hair cut at a saloon

4assholes in other professions are not above the law, but asshole cops can do anything they want with no consequence

From: kuzzy [Kuzzy]
Date: 13-May-2008 18:51

Id just like to know what you people are doing or saying to these cops that youre getting beat up and slapped around "without provocation".

From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 13-May-2008 20:28

100 times for solicitation?

Chinny you fucking whoremaster!
I shall inform the WBI (whore-mongering bureau of intimidation) immediately.

You do not belong amongst moral individuals. Eliot 'the jew' Spitzer shall
be made well aware of your horrible and unforgivable sin!

No....wait, he himself err, a crusader against immorality mind you, err...well he,.............err!

Well, at least he didn't use the pubic jack to pay for the sweet high-end cunt he was tapping.....err. Err, perhaps Eliot is a bad example.

Cotton Mather in contrast, Increased the penalties for adultury and.....err.

From: aulduron [Aulduron]
Date: 13-May-2008 20:32

If I wanted to file a criminal complaint against the local police, I think I'd go to the Sheriff's Department, State Police, or FBI.

From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 13-May-2008 20:44

Certainly logical Auldy.....it would be self-defeating for a citizen to
put a grievance against an oinker wherein his boss would be ultimate arbiter.

After all, one of his employees defiying procedure, or even breaking the law
probably wouldn't reflect too well the leadership the 'Chief' is able to impart upon his people. County DA...is where to go.


But this paricy is true in ANY competitive business......but agreed; the bar need be set higher for whose acting in the name of the people whom ultimately pay their salary.

From: absintheredux [Green Death]
Date: 13-May-2008 21:16

"No infant is as happy in his infancy as an adult in his
adultery" (Oscar Wilde)

From: morte266 [Old and Tired]
Date: 13-May-2008 21:31

Actually most states have their own Bureau of Investigation. That would probably be your best bet to file a complaint if you don't want to go to the Department in question.

The Sheriff's Department or State Police probably won't ahve jurisdiction over the PD.. the FBI won't either unless it involves a Civil Rights Violation. The State's Bureau of Investigation will have, though.

From: chinnuts [Got Three For Ya]
Date: 13-May-2008 22:05

From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 13-May-2008 20:28

100 times for solicitation?

Chinny you fucking whoremaster!
I shall inform the WBI (whore-mongering bureau of intimidation) immediately.
------------------
Somewhat true. Actually, the charge while akin to prostitutery, is all about
not having a license (tribute to the local caesar) to be a bidnessman.
The 10 large was a small price to pay, incrementally.

(scamming magazines door to door)

The best perk was having to whore to myself lonely housewives for subscriptions. An education that couldn't be purchased anywhere for any price.

From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 13-May-2008 22:30

You moral profligate GD....my Archbishop will visit thee
shortly upon the peril of thy immortal soul.

(is that located the pineal gland?)

From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 13-May-2008 22:37

I'm not sure I buy that last post Chin-Chin-Cheroo....but its fucking
droll regardless!

From: chinnuts [Got Three For Ya]
Date: 13-May-2008 23:04

Not selling Dee-Dee.



"The truth is free. But if'n you're paying, I'll
tell you what you want to hear". My grandpappy's acceptance speech upon winning the Republican Chairmanship in Scioto County, Ohio in 1932.

From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 13-May-2008 23:56

My grandpappy's acceptance speech upon winning the Republican Chairmanship in Scioto County, Ohio in 1932.

Good for him bro.

From: hoosierbitch [Isn't it pretty to think so?]
Date: 14-May-2008 01:02

This is what happens when elected swine cry for more police. There are only so many people qualified to be cops. The rest of the numbers are filled by steroid junkies and violent assholes who bust a nut playing SS officer.

From: other [unclassified]
Date: 14-May-2008 06:06

Most of my clique in highschool joined local forces, but a lot of them bailed after a few years. Their stories were intersting to say the least. They all wanted to be boy scouts and help others. About half those left kept their cool, but the rest gave in to peer pressure from the loudmouth bullies in the rank and file, or became revenuers. It was sad to see some of my friends go bad over time. We taxpayers are their ultimate bosses and customers and desreve to know what goes on....or whose army is it?

From: morte266 [Old and Tired]
Date: 14-May-2008 07:16

Other:

The Public is not the ultimate boss of the Police Force... The Government that empowers the PD is. If we were a Democracy then that theory of yours might hold true. But we are not a Democracy. We are a Republic. You elect people to represent you, but you do not get a say in the Government directly. Their are a few exceptions to this, but for the most part that's the way it works.

The Public is not the ultimate boss of the Military for the same reason.

Think of it as a Corporation. The people who hold the stocks elect the Board of Directors, but they do not get a say in the day to day decisions of the Company. If they start losing money they can replace the Board, but the new board will run the Company.

The Stockholders (Voters) can shape the general direction of the Company (Nation, State, or City) but the fine details are handled by their Board of Directors(Government)

On the other side of it the voters have more of a say in the Sheriff's Department. The Sheriff is elected. It is a Political Position. However Sheriff's Offices are usually less effective than Police Departments. They work under more of a Good Ole Boy network. The Sheriff's primary goal is to keep his constituents (bosses) happy and keep himself in office. He hires deputies to further his primary goal. His people are usually friendlier to residents (and unfriendlier to non residents), but they are also usually less effective in law enforcement. Not rocking the boat becomes more important than effect in a lot of cases. Without that accountability for professionalism it is also easier for Sheriffs and deputies to become criminals. You hear of Sheriffs being crooks semi regularly.. but you almost never hear of a Police Chief being corrupt.. and the ones you do are almost always in small towns and not cities.


A Chief of Police is hired. The Chief of Police's primary goal is effectiveness.. whether on paper or in actuality. Since he is an Employee he is not reliant on the goodwill of the voters.. he's reliant on the good will of the City Council and the Mayor(bosses). The PD tends to be more professional and better trained.. But the focus on effect tends to make them disliked more... that constant push from above for numbers. More tickets.. more stops.. more arrests... With more focus on effect and less on public image there are a lot of mistakes and misunderstandings.

Some departments (like mine) have been pushing the other way. We had a pretty good Community Oriented Policing initiative going... and the department's image soared because of it.. we were getting less numbers, though. Our crime rate didn't increase, but there were less points in the proactive column because instead of writing tickets oficers were talking to residents. More communication, less misunderstandings.

Our focus has recently gone back to enforcement.. so I'm sure our image will take a hit from it sooner or later. *shrug*

From: ferret [Honkey Kong]
Date: 14-May-2008 13:00


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