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Vigilante Mom
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"He told me to take my clothes off, and I said no, so he took them off me."
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From: pontiuspilatus
[Pontius Phallus Pilatius]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 15:34
"She was 9 years old. Coy Hundley was drunk, Amanda said, but that wasn't unusual. He would rape her again a few months later, she testified in court." I can be as drunk as it gets, 9 year olds still don't attract me. Why do people always try to give alcohol a bad name?
From: abluecommunist
[Red is for republicans, dammit!]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 15:35
What a nice bunch of people. This goes to show that you don't fuck with people or their kids unless you are willing to pay the price. Everyone has a breaking point, as this shitstain found out. Six months for killing the asshole who raped your kid is regrettable, but at least she wasn't nailed for first-degree homicide.
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 15:43
Jesus.......who would want to rape that tub of shit? Nine or otherwise? Fry the bitch.....where's the evidence? Oh sorry, I forgot.....he's a guy. (MUST be a rapist...PC bullshit) Put that pig on a spit.
From: snatchvondrippy [snatch]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 15:56
fucking-a- i don't know if i could NOT cap any bastard who touched my bairns. rape my kid and laugh in my face= i dina think so. she prolly only wishes she hadnt dispatched him so quickly full marks from me on deportment-
From: csi [can't stand idiots]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 15:58
mom deserves a medal. kill all rapists.
From: pussypounder [deeppenetrator]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 16:04
Any way she can collector on her dead Uncle's estate for damages?
From: gargoyle1
Date: 6-Oct-2007 16:11
Good for her, glad that she capped his ass. Also glad they mentioned that she shot him, or I'd have wondered if she just sat on his face and suffocated him in a fold.
From: huwatng [Hue]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 16:13
daredevil -- that's the mom. Her daughter is the one who was raped.
From: bloodzombie77 [Bloodzombie77]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 16:14
I saw her story on "Snapped" on the Oxygen channel, trust me, this lady did the right thing. You should've seen the guy, he was complete trash, and so was the rest of his dirtball family. When they brought some of them in for interviewing on the program, the stupid dirtballs couldn't even stand to take a shower. The guy's brother came on camera looking like he just changed the oil out of a fleet of Semi-trucks, still wearing coveralls and looking like complete garbage, he came on and started in with his broken english: "You can't done tell me she's gone and done shot my ol' brudder, and done git away wit it? he culdn't purtect hisself." Believe me, if I had a daughter and some inbred-jed raped her, trust me, if he told me "What are ya gonna do about it?", I wouldn't have let him die as quick as he did.This is the kind of justice they still have in some other countries, where people commit horrible acts, and the victim's family is allowed to dish out the punishment. Crime around those areas is considerably less, and if it's not, it's dealt with properly. Think for a moment if this guy was put in jail instead of gunned down....you think he'd learn something? hell no. His family would've probably made good on their threats, killed Kim, and probably gang-rape the poor girl, because like it or not, that's how these barbarians live, and that's how they think. They're uneducated dirtball trash, and deserve to be dealt with accordingly
From: slyslick [andwicked]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 16:22
Shooting the sack of shit would have been completely unfulfilling and waayyy too fast. Unless you shot him one limb at a time. Beating him to death as he crawled around the parking lot, crying and trying to get away... Heavy blunt objects for laughy, rapey, bitches.
From: hoosierbitch [Isn't it pretty to think so?]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 16:25
Let this be a lesson to you. Kill 'em with the first 6 shots.
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 16:28
From: huwatng [Hue] Date: 6-Oct-2007 16:13 daredevil -- that's the mom. Her daughter is the one who was raped. ------------------------------ Oh. Now having read the whole story: 'Hundley's eldest son had allegedly molested her son Shane, now 15, as well as Amanda'. Jebus......euthanize the entire extended family. Whom did blob-mom 'molest' (whatever that means)....the family dog?
From: nomdeplume [NomDeGuerre]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 16:40
So hillbilly culture isn't all that much different from inner city culture. What else is new?
From: rectum
[Damn near killed 'em]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 16:45
damn . fuckin . right mess with my babies and you die. although, I know who is with my kids at all times. no drunkin scumbags at anytime. maybe mom was a bit of a methhead.
From: darkwolf [the Wolf with the nasty bite]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 17:04
Make sure this woman gets a nice bouquet for Mother's day for the rest of her life. Of course no jury in the world will convict her.
From: pelvicexam
[Pelvic Exam]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 17:26
They shouldn't have sent her to jail. Her sentence should have been to send her and those two poor kids to Disney World for a couple of weeks. Wonder if the rapist's family is going to take vengeance on her and those children, though. His entire family sounds like shit.
From: fucktardmama [fook-me]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 17:32
WOW! Good for mom. However I do wonder. Had this been her shack up boyfriend who (or is it whom?) the daughter was accusing...would would mom have: 1)believed her dauther and/or 2)killed the guy? See how pesimistic Rotten has made me?
From: jaybegood
[Sir Robin of D'Hood]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 17:33
"Kimberly shot him five times, reloaded the weapon and fired five more rounds, killing him." Five times then reloaded? Was it a revolver with six shots, why not do the whole six and then do six more for shits and giggles! I hope he had a real surprised look on his face as the first 2 or three hit and then kind of twitched on the ground as the rest found their target. Gives trailer trash a bad name.
From: signaljammer [don]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 18:16
Inner-city culture? Is that code, you sack of s___? What about the urban environment is conducive to this sort of thing? There are people nearby constantly. This is a suburban/rural thing, mostly.
From: snowwhite [SnowWhite]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 18:39
Yeah, it was a six-shot pistol, but Big Mamma could only count to five, so that's how many slugs she could shoot at a time. BAM...wun, BAM..tue, BAM...tree, BAM...foe, BAM...ah hell, nou ah loss caunt.
From: ladyamethyst
[Michelle]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 18:57
The mistake she made was doing it in front of witnesses. What she SHOULD have done is torched his house, his car, and him...after a lengthy experience with a cattle prod to the nads. Make his family think twice before trying any retribution crap on her or hers. What am I gonna do about it shit head? THIS: ZAP...Zap..zzzttt!
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 19:18
Fatty's ass will soon be new-mown grass. And not the stuff she grazes on in her back yard either.
From: shanon [shanon]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 19:29
She did it the right way and got off with the charges. Daydreaming about what and how you would go about carrying out this justice is beside the point.Good for her!
From: mljohns00 [Radical Conservative]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 19:55
Wouldn't you know it? Most of those cans of Green Beans with Bacon Bits have hardly any meat in 'em at all.
From: conspiracy
[Theory]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 20:30
I wish my memory was better , but anyway. This lady killed the guy that raped her child ,IN COURT, and when she went to trial , the judge sentenced her to 10 years , suspended. ( no time in jail ) Justice sometimes has to be taken by those seeking it. MTC
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 21:40
This is the same politically correct attitude that has this country's thought processes and legal system operating under a dysfunctional paradigm. The T.V- addled masses (unsophisticated lemmings all) are continuously indoctrinated to react on an emotional level rather than on one of empirical logic. This is what I sometimes crudely refer to as the 'pussification' of America. Or the 'Jerry Springerization' perhaps? As Don Corleone pointed out in the 'Godfather' film where a sycophant requested the murder of two young men who had beaten his cock-teasing daughter; 'that is not justice....your daughter is still alive'. If the guy was truly guilty then a court would have decided so....then shoot him. I assume our resident oinker would concur with that assessment...unless your life is in danger........that's when I fire away.
From: drmstrspoodle
[Daremaster Spoodle]
Date: 6-Oct-2007 23:26
I'm with zombie on this one. I too saw the "Snapped" episode and the rapist family are total shitbags. The story reminds me years ago, waaaaay back, of the lone hick that was terrorizing the small rural town - I forget the details - but he'd keep getting arrested for violent crimes, go back to town, and beat the shit out of the people that testified against him. It got to the point where the sheriff and deputies pretty much refused to deal with him, because he was so out of control. Apparently after he shot a grocery store owner the whole town formed a mob, armed themselves, walked to the bar where the criminal was staying and shot him. When investigators (even the FBI, if I can remember) looked into the case the whole town said nothing, even the sheriffs, and about half the townspeople claimed they hid under a pool table and didn't see anything during the shooting. There was a huge expose I read on it called something like "The Town That Said Nothing". Anyone remember the details?
From: flyndaran [Patrick]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 00:19
He was never convicted. But he's an evil man and children never lie or are mistaken. But the entertainment program on Lifetime shows the family is bad... If I have mean relatives, then I must be a rapist too... Just wait until some neighbor kid accuses you... Dumbasses.
From: doesshe
[ever shut up, that DS?]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 00:29
From: flyndaran [Patrick] Date: 7-Oct-2007 00:19 He was never convicted. But he's an evil man and children never lie or are mistaken. But the entertainment program on Lifetime shows the family is bad... If I have mean relatives, then I must be a rapist too... Just wait until some neighbor kid accuses you... Dumbasses. ----------------- Cough, cough I suddenly feel uncomfortable (well, more than usual on here). I am not saying one more word.
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 00:49
Egg-Nog...what's a nice girl like you doing with a piece like that? Desert Eagle 5.0? Can't think what film you saw that one in. Ahem. Mine is a lot closer to the revolvers you had earlier...which I keep in the car. (legally mind you..Arizona has the most liberal carry-programs in the country) And a big olde 12-Bore for the flop! No Midnight Rambler better jump MY garden wall!
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 01:25
...What about the urban environment is conducive to this sort of thing? There are people nearby constantly. .... Are you trying to deny that inner cities are more violent than the suburbs?
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 02:12
N1ggers Auldy......are you seriously attempting to equate crime levels in poor shitskin districts with well-patrolled affluent white districts? If you buy that bullshit......I suggest you have your head examined.
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 02:17
Excuse Auldy.......you were stating the obvious...drugs, rampant crime, illegitimacy, ignorance. These factors all contribute to crime......the facts are incontrovertible.
From: selfcleaning [buttocks]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 02:51
"If she hadn't reloaded that gun," said Carl Eppolito, a juror from the second trial, "I would have let her walk." -Fuck you, Carl Eppolito.
From: hubrisofsatan
[now with the hubris of satan]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 03:36
Actually the best thing to do to rapists is get them convicted. Then they're on the registry for the rest of their lives in addition to being the bottoms in prison (so it's said). Plus when his family tries to make good on their threats you can blow them all away with impunity, effectively ruining his life and killing everyone in it. Beating somebody to death can only practically last about 20 minutes, less in a parking lot, more if you're an experienced psychopath, which I assume she wasn't.
From: flossy666
[Flossy]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 07:52
I'm glad she killed him, but I think it's fitting that she does just a smidge of jail time, too. It would send a bad message if she got off. A lot of idiots wouldn't know where to draw the line. "He took the last donut...blam!" "My latte is too foamy...blam!" But hell, I'd be more than willing to do 6 months for shooting someone who did that to a kid of mine. As long as there was someone I could trust to take care of my kids while I was in jail. I mean, I'd be miserable enough knowing my 9 year old got brutalized by my sister's pig of a baby-daddy, I can be miserable just as easily in prison or at home. http://b.muglets.com/LBZ7-B Sorry, couldn't help myself.
From: mcdanel1771
[mcdanel 1771]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 09:18
I don't care that she reloaded. I always figured to unload the whole clip if I ever had to use mine. Last thing I would want to see is some sumbitch I had just shot lurching back up to his feet, pissed. Too many of those "'dead' guy grabs your ankle" movie scenes, I guess. I confessed to my mom at the same age (stepfather). She pulled the car over, puked, came back, and asked me how I could have done something so gross; she would never do something that disgusting (oral sex)...she railed on that she should have known he'd cheat on her. And thank you for your support, mom, please excuse me while I disassociate myself and become comfortably numb. {selective disassociation can be very handy in a psycho/alcoholic household, where your brain is the only escape} I wish my mom would have had one iota of this woman's spine. Maybe I'd be the same misanthrope I am today, but I'd be so proud if I could remember her standing up for me as a kid.
From: jaybegood
[Sir Robin of D'Hood]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 09:34
"Have you seen this man? Are you seeing this man? Why are you seeing this man?" LOL I remember the original caption under that photo "...and the whole newsroom went silent!"
From: rotteneggs13
[a bakers dozen]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 09:58
From: daredevil [CameronVale] Date: 7-Oct-2007 00:49 Egg-Nog...what's a nice girl like you doing with a piece like that? Desert Eagle 5.0? -----+-----+----- I prefer the .357 myself. Has the needed stopping power and I can use .38 special for target practice. Guess that makes me a gun-nut. Something I never wanna see. The business end, YIKES!  
From: mcdanel1771
[mcdanel 1771]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 10:26
Conspiracy, were you thinking of Ellie Nessler? I think she did do time; really screwed up her kid when she went away. You could see "Free Ellie" graffiti all over the CA gold country. Just as many folks seemed to hate her. When shit like this happens in these tiny communities, YOU NEED TO MOVE. The woman in this story needs to gather up her loved ones and get to another state. She can't keep living where everybody is somebody's cousin.
From: barbwire [Jump_Rope_With_It]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 10:33
The story reminds me years ago, waaaaay back, of the lone hick that was terrorizing the small rural town - I forget the details - but he'd keep getting arrested for violent crimes, go back to town, and beat the shit out of the people that testified against him. It got to the point where the sheriff and deputies pretty much refused to deal with him, because he was so out of control. Apparently after he shot a grocery store owner the whole town formed a mob, armed themselves, walked to the bar where the criminal was staying and shot him. When investigators (even the FBI, if I can remember) looked into the case the whole town said nothing, even the sheriffs, and about half the townspeople claimed they hid under a pool table and didn't see anything during the shooting. There was a huge expose I read on it called something like "The Town That Said Nothing". Anyone remember the details? ++++++ I have the book. It's called In Broad Daylight by Harry MacClean. The guy's name was Ken McElroy. It happened in Skidmore Missouri back in 1981. That guy was a real piece of shit. It was extremely funny how the whole town got amnesia about what happened though. There were so many people there with guns that day that they probably aren't even sure who shot the bullet that killed him.
From: rotteneggs13
[a bakers dozen]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 10:49
What year did that happen barbwire? That sounds like a good read. Vigilante justice: I am not sure I can agree with a person or persons playing judge, jury, & executioner
From: sgrannel
Date: 7-Oct-2007 11:20
From: pontiuspilatus [Pontius Phallus Pilatius] Date: 6-Oct-2007 18:50 I who has no idea of guns know that you put only five bullets in a revolver, so that you have one safe position. __________________________________________________________________________ That's an interesting idea. Having a safe position would allow the safe carry without the safety on. If she carried the gun in response to a threat, the last thing she would want is to be unable to fire the gun in a panic situation because the safety is on.
From: barbwire [Jump_Rope_With_It]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 12:17
It happened in 1981 but the book was published in 1988. You have to be a real assclown to piss of that many people that badly. Usually a murderer is caught because they tell someone what they did and that person rats them out. 45 people know what happened that day and NO ONE told. It's quite amazing really when you think about it. Note to self... if I ever need to keep a secret, go to Skidmore. Apparently they really know how to keep their mouths shut there.
From: nomdeplume [NomDeGuerre]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 12:39
From: signaljammer [don] Date: 6-Oct-2007 18:16 Inner-city culture? Is that code, you sack of s___? What about the urban environment is conducive to this sort of thing? There are people nearby constantly. This is a suburban/rural thing, mostly. ----------- Let me rephrase that just for you Don, you idiot, as the combination of 'inner city' and 'culture' obviously went clear above the horizon of your crack-addled brain (what's left of it): Hillbillies can be just as depraved as ghetto kniggers. You happy now, homie?
From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 12:45
What a good mother.
From: barbwire [Jump_Rope_With_It]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 12:49
It is a nice change of pace to see mothers killing for their children instead of killing them.
From: four20nprogress
[Ryan]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 13:10
"What are you going to do about it?" he allegedly said. Kimberly shot him five times, reloaded the weapon and fired five more rounds, killing him. ha ha ha. I laughed for a while
From: laurasaurus
[Laura]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 13:20
i say this to all mothers out there: protect your children. If I wasn't molested I'd never have been through half the bullshit I have been through. I probably wouldn't even read the daily rotten. I'd probably be a really nice, normal girl and think you all were sick. I wish I had the good sense to tell my mom so she could have killed his ass, I know she would have. I look at my son now and think that if anyone even looked at him sideways I'd rip their fucking head off. I'm with you, Ms Cunningham. 100%. You did what you had to do. The justice system is bullshit, and until it gets fixed, you did the right thing. 6 months in prison for your children is better than a lifetime of regret for not doing anything. I hope the kids get help and live okay lives. And I hope this doesn't scare others out of doing what has to be done in the future...
From: prestonsgirl [Melanie]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 13:28
I want to pat this lady on the back and buy her a drink! I wish I could have seen the look on that shitbags face when she pulled out that gun after he said 'What are you gonna do about it?'!
From: bbfreak [Benny Boo]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 13:29
I don't agree with vigilant justice, especially since killing a scumbag isn't going to make up the fact that you were a BAD mother. I mean come on, know who your kids are what and what those people are capable of. That's your job as a parent, if you fail its your fault. The fact that she reloaded proves that it wasn't done entirely throughout the heat of the moment and that makes her a cold blooded killer. No if's or butts about it, and the only case were I would condone vigilante justice is when the law fails. That wasn't the case here, the law didn't fail, because the law knew too little about this issue to do anything about it. A parent did fail though.
From: laurindak
[Laurinda]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 14:14
AWESOME job mom!  In a time when you hear about so many whore women putting their men first and the needs of their children DEAD last,this was refreshing to hear. I would have done the same with no regrets.
From: chinnuts
[Got Three For Ya]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 14:21
From: daredevil [CameronVale] Date: 6-Oct-2007 21:40 This is the same politically correct attitude that has this country's thought processes and legal system operating under a dysfunctional paradigm. The T.V- addled masses (unsophisticated lemmings all) are continuously indoctrinated to react on an emotional level rather than on one of empirical logic. This is what I sometimes crudely refer to as the 'pussification' of America. Or the 'Jerry Springerization' perhaps? As Don Corleone pointed out in the 'Godfather' film where a sycophant requested the murder of two young men who had beaten his cock-teasing daughter; 'that is not justice....your daughter is still alive'. If the guy was truly guilty then a court would have decided so....then shoot him. I assume our resident oinker would concur with that assessment...unless your life is in danger........that's when I fire away. ----------------------------------- Cameron, you asscunt do you have children? No, of course not. So shut the fuck up. You have no right to an opinion on this subject. Well read? Perhaps. Well thinking? Not really. On the other hand, I kept a close watch on my daughter so that she didn't have to deal with this. The lesson was learned from my own experience and other parents who didn't. I probably wouldn't have killed the "uncle chester" as I could think of better paybacks for him. I would have a hard time convicting her based on the evidence in court and the news. However in court, the news is inadmissable, and rightfully so. But, and a big but, is that children don't suddenly change their behaviour for no good reason. The more extreme the change, the more extreme the trauma. The tough thing for a parent is to keep the trust and dialogue open to get to the truth. I do have to say, I really liked her cool and game to reload what appears to be a revolver under the circumstances.
From: morte266
[Old and Tired]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 15:10
Professionally I have to say vigilante justice is a bad thing... As a father? *cheer* Mom I'd not have convicted her. Especially since she went to the cops about her son and nothing was done.. probably for lack of evidence... not the cops fault.. there is usually very little evidence to work with in these cases.. especially when dealing with delayed reports. *shrug* in that case you come to a choice... is doing the time worth killing the assbag that hurt your child? It is a personal decision and only you can make it... it has both pros and cons.. if your child lives through the experience then if you go to prison who takes care of them... is the trauma of the parent going to jail because of something the child told them worse in the long run than letting assbag live? I dunno... the choice, if the child died, is an easy one... but which does the child need more if they live.. the parent taking vengeance... or the parent being there to help them work through the incident? On the other hand... if you let assbag live then he is almost assuredly going to do it again.. after all he got away with it with your child... Personally I'd probably be serving time.. but my daughter has a really good mother to take care of her.. what ever problems I ahve with my ex wife.. her parenting skills have never been in question.
From: slyslick [andwicked]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 15:29
From: bbfreak [Benny Boo] Date: 7-Oct-2007 13:29 I don't agree with vigilant justice, especially since killing a scumbag isn't going to make up the fact that you were a BAD mother. I mean come on, know who your kids are what and what those people are capable of. That's your job as a parent, if you fail its your fault. The fact that she reloaded proves that it wasn't done entirely throughout the heat of the moment and that makes her a cold blooded killer. No if's or butts about it, and the only case were I would condone vigilante justice is when the law fails. That wasn't the case here, the law didn't fail, because the law knew too little about this issue to do anything about it. A parent did fail though ---------------------------- Go ahead. Put your head back up your ass. I'm sure it's much more comfortable there.
From: mrsstipic [Mrs. Stipic]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 15:54
Whether or not one is a parent is completely irrelevant in this discussion. I'm sure everyone here has cared for another person at some point in their lives. Perhaps you're not entitled to have an opinion on this unless you've raped a child. Why do stupid people believe that you have to have first hand experience with a matter in order to be able to have an opinion? Idiots. You can't just go shoot someone 10 times in the absence of an imminent threat, and without due process. But, uneducated people are ruled by passion, not reason, and that's much of the reason this nation is in such sorry shape.
From: slyslick [andwicked]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 15:59
Chinny, probably the same dumbasses who would villify a mother for standing by while an abusive husband/boyfriend beat her kids to death. Even the most attentive parent cannot watch their kids 24/7. Somehow, regardless of the circumstances, the parents are always to blame. Someone should give this woman a fucking medal. One less piece of shit in the world breathing precious oxygen.
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 16:30
...You can't just go shoot someone 10 times in the absence of an imminent threat, and without due process.... Sure you can. This story is proof. ...I don't agree with vigilant justice, especially since killing a scumbag isn't going to make up the fact that you were a BAD mother.... What did she do to be a bad mother?
From: morte266
[Old and Tired]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 16:32
Mrsstipic: Actually you most assuredly CAN shoot someone 10 times in absence of imminent threat and without due process. It might not be legal.. but you most assuredly can do it. You just have to be willing to take responsibility for your actions. This woman not only shot the guy, but she drove away.. went to the Sheriff's Office and turned herself in. She not only did what she thought was her only option to end the threat to her family, she also willingly went and took responsibility for her actions afterwards. *shrug* say what ya want to about the woman.. she has more courage and moral fiber than just about anyone on this site. Whether or not you agree with what she did or why.. the woman has more guts and a better sense of personal responsibility than 90% of the people I've ever met. What she did was definitely illegal.. and I would have arrested her for it... noone disagrees with the legality of her actions. Right and wrong are harder to quantify because though legal and illegal are pretty much absolutes... right and wrong are values.. and values depend on the culture and the society the incident happened in. Cajuns would cheer... New Yorkers would be wringing their hands in agony over the fate of the poor lil rapist... both people would consider their opinions to be the "right" one. I use those two groups as examples because they are both, by and large, Democrats.
From: slyslick [andwicked]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 16:39
From: slyslick [andwicked] Date: 7-Oct-2007 16:33 I thought the reason(s) this country is in such sorry shape, is because of a. Negroe$ b. Jews c.illegal immigrants d.American Idol d.the price of good weed going through the roof e.lack of a decent blowjob for Republican politicians, forcing them to seek said hummer from strangers in public restrooms. Really, when did reason have anything to do with Rotten.com?
From: slyslick [andwicked]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 16:46
Sorry for the double post. Thought the filter ate my comment. Too much sun and beer today.
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 16:55
Cameron, you asscunt do you have children? No, of course not. So shut the fuck up. You have no right to an opinion on this subject. ------------------------------------ Do you realize how ridiculous that statement is Chinny? You don't need a weatherman to know which way the the wind blows. I'll opine on anything I care to asshole....get the nuts off your chin....I think they're addling what 3rd rate grey matter you DO have. Fuck you.....and fuck your daughter and the crackhead n1gger she rode in on...like father like daughter no doubt? Jesus, what a piss-poor role model. I pity you both.
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 17:56
Moi? No.......I don't engage in rants; but sometimes when I'm personally attacked for simply offering my opinion...the offending cocksucker needs admonishment with regard to their presumptuous transgression. Especially when the aforementioned transgression is handled in such obviously brainless, emotive, clumsy, and non-empirical fashion.
From: flossy666
[Flossy]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 18:55
I think a lot of cases of child molestation are at least partially caused by a lazy parenting style, but surely not all of them. I definitely don't think shooting the accused 10 times should be the first and only approach, but in this case it's easy to understand. This woman bought a gun in the first place because of the last time she tried dealing with this guy through the proper channels. She was already scared shitless of him. I mean, yeah, after this guy's kid was accused of fiddling with both her kids, should she have moved far away & never dealt with her sister or the rest of those freaks again? Absolutely. But some people are low on options and resources.
From: shanon [shanon]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 18:58
About the skidmoor murder, they made a tv movie about it.It had the same guy who played John Gasey.I cant remember his fucking name right now but he was also in the cocoon movies.
From: absintheredux
[Green Death]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 19:25
From: shanon [shanon] Date: 7-Oct-2007 18:58 About the skidmoor murder, they made a tv movie about it.It had the same guy who played John Gasey. ___________________________________________ I suppose that "skidmoor" means "Skidmore" re: Ken McElroy (murderer, rapist and bully) and his execution by the townspeople. "Gasey" must mean "Gacey" and not a gas attack due to a surplus of beans in his meat stew.
From: chinnuts
[Got Three For Ya]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 19:36
From: daredevil [CameronVale] Date: 7-Oct-2007 16:55 Cameron, you asscunt do you have children? No, of course not. So shut the fuck up. You have no right to an opinion on this subject. ------------------------------------ Do you realize how ridiculous that statement is Chinny? You don't need a weatherman to know which way the the wind blows. I'll opine on anything I care to asshole....get the nuts off your chin....I think they're addling what 3rd rate grey matter you DO have. Fuck you.....and fuck your daughter and the crackhead n1gger she rode in on...like father like daughter no doubt? Jesus, what a piss-poor role model. I pity you both. --------------------------- Another shot in the dark. And a miss once again. Pitiful indeed. I really expected better from you Cameron. Being that you have so much experience with your social and sex life consisting of nothing more than evening after evening of lonely shots in the dark. Followed by a soft wimper under the covers. But I digress. Since you post so many ad hominem attacks on others why not take a moment disassemble you. First-You brag of your prodigious intellect, how well read you are and your extensive education but yet you have never added one idea or insight to this forum. In fact, most of your posts are copies or pastes of others writings. When you are not copying another's writings your posts boil down to your delusions that the Jew's and anyone else who isn't the color or ethninticity of your choice has kept you down or is holding you back. Second-Your sexual and social life is nonexistent. You post far too much here for that to be possible. You could, however, claim to control time and space, but that would only continue the laughter. I also can tell from your posts that you are a social boor and no one would give you the time of day in the real world. You couldn't sit for one minute and listen to another point of view even if you could lose your virginity if you did. I've seen your posts about the issues concerning women, and pal you don't have a clue. Sure the blind squirrel finds a nut now and then, but one or two a season isn't a feast. Third-Cameron, do yourself a favor and come out of the closet. You'll be a lot happier if you do. Way too many women have pointed out your self loathing, and when their gaydar goes off I've learned to listen. Jesus Cameron, you have a rabbit for a pet. You call it bunbun and talk endlessly about it. If you had a heterosexual friend, even a friend at all, they would say "Dude, that's gay as hell". My profile of you shows a scared little man who sits behind anonimity and seeths at the world and people who, in your distorted view, have shorted you and not given you the credit you believe you're due. Somewhat like Ted Kazynski. Cameron, I can see right through you. I take people like you apart every day. Still, you are an asscunt and that's not a dick that you think you have, it's a clit.
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 20:22
guess i touched a nerve. oh.
From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 21:02
DD, just once, I'd like to see you comment on a thread without mentioning race or rabbits.
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 21:09
 Jack Rabbits are true hares because, unlike the cottontailed rabbits, they do not build nests. The mother simply chooses a place to her liking and the young are born fully furred, with their eyes wide open. Sorry bella.
From: morte266
[Old and Tired]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 21:13
I have to say that homicidal flop-eared rabbits armed with switchblades don't sound very effeminate to me... Bunbun, indeed I'm not going to take sides in this lil lover's spat between you two, but Bunbun is not a bad name for a rabbit if ya know the comic... or the novel. Of course the comic in question does have some rather... umm.. eccentric... readers.
From: chinnuts
[Got Three For Ya]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 21:31
From: daredevil [CameronVale] Date: 7-Oct-2007 20:22 guess i touched a nerve. oh. ------------ Nerve? I have lots of nerve. Thick skin too. Just calling a spade a spade. Know what I mean brotha'? Hertz Dounut?
From: chinnuts
[Got Three For Ya]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 21:37
I'm not going to take sides in this lil lover's spat between you two, --------------------------- Never asked, never expected, never wanted. I prefer to call out an asscunt on my own. Don't bother to waste your time Morte. Even Kucklinski knew to work alone. No love lost. Never has, never was.
From: doesshe
[ever shut up, that DS?]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 21:40
From: chinnuts [Got Three For Ya] Date: 7-Oct-2007 21:31 Nerve? I have lots of nerve. Thick skin too. Just calling a spade a spade. Know what I mean brotha'? Hertz Dounut? --------------------- Hey yo yo yo, brotha' DD! I bet you're known on the streets as "D-Devil"! When he peeps in da' ghetto see you walking down the alley clutching your bunny, they whisper to each other, "don't fuck with D-Devil, he's carrying around a bunny, so you know that mutha-fucka be all sorts of crazy"!
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 21:49
Damn DS....you done figgerred da shit out an' shit. Dat bunny do inspire da furrfuggin' atority's to beg my murrfugin' jack. Dem ho's dun be transfxed bi der lttle fckr..hlarty ensoose.
From: chinnuts
[Got Three For Ya]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 22:20
From: daredevil [CameronVale] Date: 7-Oct-2007 21:44 Kucklinski? ---------------- It's late. Don't know where the "c" came from. Kuklinski. First cousin. Feel better?
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 7-Oct-2007 23:59
Please do....Marie made a nice rabbit from that Windows bitmap program; which is a real pain in the ass. They canceled my Photobucket account due to outrageous pornographic images I was uplifting.......but they were far tramer than the shit that ends up on DR! Bastardos.....they have no notion of pure unadulterated rottenry! More fool them.
From: bagga [Txips]
Date: 8-Oct-2007 04:06
Well... She killed a man, because allegedly this was the second case of molestation her family had experienced. Surely the fact that it was the second case means the police are more likely to investigate more thoroughly? Or let's consider the fact of the accusation by the daughter, who was 14 or 15 at the time of the accusation. Is a 14 year old too innocent to lie, or too unaware of sexual matters to make this kind of accusation? I am reminded of the time I went with my wife and my stepdaughter to see a film for kids. Me and my wife both went to the toilets at the cinema. We left our 11 year old daughter in the queue to keep our place. Being a bloke, I of course finished firat, so returned to the queue. My stepdaughter, who had been trained by her biological father to hate me with every fibre of her being, then said "Who are you?" WTF? She knew exactly what sorta trouble I could have been in, had her mum not turned up seconds later and said "hey, what's going on?" Or there is the time that my wife was working at a creche, and overheard a FIVE YEAR OLD tell a creche worker, "You can't smack me because my mum will take you to court for child abuse" Kids today are not as unknowing as you might think. BUT, I must admit I do fully understand what the mum did in this case, but I woulda probably used a baseball bat. Apparently the look on the mum's face is one of "real pain". The kind of look you might get if your daughter had been molested. How different would that be from the look you might get if your daughter said after the killing "OMG mum I only made that story up to stop you from nagging me"? But you can't go around killing folk just because you believe them guilty of a crime. That way lies madness - do we really want to go back to the old ways? Lynchings? The death penalty decided upon by a quick vote? Even us posters are making our minds up based on the barest minimum of information. We just DON'T KNOW.
From: red [red]
Date: 8-Oct-2007 04:51
Acquit. Hell, give her a medal and apologize to her for having to go to court at all. Kill the rest of the perv's family NOW and save time and misery later on. "He needed killin'" is an acceptable defense.
From: morte266
[Old and Tired]
Date: 8-Oct-2007 05:20
Bagga... You are right up until a certain point... That point is where he said hell yeah I did it, now what are you gonna do about it... I believe she gave the man a very succinct and explicit answer to his inquiry... whaddya think, huh?
From: clenis [its ALL my fault]
Date: 8-Oct-2007 05:23
Bullshit. Flame wars are much more fun.
From: siing9 [Singing]
Date: 8-Oct-2007 05:44
what if i believe my bunny was molested? not once, not twice, but three times? can I shoot the perp and then get away with it?
From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 8-Oct-2007 06:26
Bagga, this woman had already been to the police twice about this asshole. The cops did nothing. He'd threatened her family. The cops did nothing. She started carrying the gun because of him and his kin. The cops did nothing. When her daughter told her what happened, she confronted the man WHO THEN ADMITTED IT AND LAUGHED AT HER ABOUT IT. It had already been shown that the cops were going to do nothing, so she did what a good parent should do. She removed the threat to her children. I love that she took time to reload and make sure his ass was dead.
From: bagga [Txips]
Date: 8-Oct-2007 09:48
She SAYS that he laughed and says "What are you gonna do about it". But then she would, wouldn't she? She would hardly say "I asked him if he had been molesting my daughter and he said ' Hell, no!' so I shot him anyway", would she? Don't get me wrong, I fully understand why she would be angry, but... It still needs to be proven and all that - can't just have folk wandering around deciding to shoot other folk, regardless of what the alleged crime is. Whatever. Except for the effect the whole situation has had on the entire family, I will admit that if he DID do it, he got the appropriate punishment.
From: hubrisofsatan
[now with the hubris of satan]
Date: 8-Oct-2007 10:09
Honestly I'm all in favor of vigilante justice, but it's not legal and if the law is going to be affected by any crying fatty with a story it's not going to be applied equally (I'm not fat and I don't cry, it's really an injustice against everybody else who wants to go around killing unsatisfactory individuals).
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 8-Oct-2007 10:33
...She SAYS that he laughed and says "What are you gonna do about it". But then she would, wouldn't she? She would hardly say "I asked him if he had been molesting my daughter and he said ' Hell, no!' so I shot him anyway", would she? ... That's why she had two juries of her peers to decide her fate.
From: phuck [and the horse you rode in on]
Date: 8-Oct-2007 10:47
"And that I could not act on my own feelings. I knew that I had to separate the way I felt as to what I might have done from what the law is" Pffft. If it were plain black and white, computers could be jurors. I don't want to live in a place like that. They use people as jurors because they have feelings and thoughts.
From: absintheredux
[Green Death]
Date: 8-Oct-2007 10:51
Bagga and Hubris seem to be the proverbial "Little [Men] Sitting on a Fence" (Josh White) where eternal cogitation becomes a substitute for direct action. Nothing more endearing than self-induced paralysis while examining the pros and the cons and inventing convoluted scenarios out of thin air while evil grins and triumph. Worked for Hamlet? Read the last act.
From: hubrisofsatan
[now with the hubris of satan]
Date: 8-Oct-2007 11:19
Aulduron, that was exactly the point (my point I mean, I think bagga was making the same one but I can't be sure). Some people were saying she should have gotten a medal or a trip to disneyland and that anyone who thinks otherwise is clearly not a parent and an idiotic douchebag who needs to get stomped to death (exaggeration). What she did get was four years in prison from that very jury who reviewed the actual evidence, as you say.
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 8-Oct-2007 12:00
Actually, the jury gave her a conviction for a lesser crime than she was charged. It was a judge who gave her 4 years, and another judge who reduced it to 6 months.
From: absintheredux
[Green Death]
Date: 8-Oct-2007 13:05
From: hubrisofsatan [now with the hubris of satan] Date: 8-Oct-2007 11:07 What direct action do you suggest I take on the internet? Yell "pew! pew!" and wave my arms? You're dead! I shot you! Yes hunh! _________________________________________ Obviously pretending to miss my point.
From: morte266
[Old and Tired]
Date: 8-Oct-2007 15:00
Hubri... Bagga.. both So, what ya are actually saying is that it doesn't matter if the guy did it or not... it doesn't matter if he told her he did it or not... she should not ahve taken any action until she could have proven that he did it... which means, if her story is true, that he would ahve gotten away with it clean. Not... Instead she did what she felt she had to do to end the threat then turned herself in and let her peers decide her fate... So, she took her responsibilities as a parent to protect her children and her responsibility as a person to let society judge her for what she did. That takes balls.. more than most people have to be honest. What you are actually saying is that if someone raped your child.. and when you confronted them they admitted it and laughed at you... you'd let them walk clean because the event happened years ago and there was no way to prove it? Notice noone has shown any scenario where she might have had an alternate reason for blowing his ass away in the parking lot... in fact the very act of reloading shows an extremism on her part that fits with what she claims... she was much more worried about this asshat dying than she was about getting caught. *shrug* she could be lying.. but the odds are probably way against it. Personally I tend to believe her version of the story and am more than satisfied with the justice rendered to all parties in this unfortunate situation.
From: bagga [Txips]
Date: 8-Oct-2007 16:07
People persist in missing my point. First, you can take it as a given that I approve of massive penalties against paedophiles and certain other criminals. There was that case where the father waited by the bank of phones, and spun round and shot the guy who murdered his son. That one I saw as much more "forgivable", because the guy had been found guilty, but the sentence was insufficiently harsh. BUT, I still maintain that it is wrong for individuals to take the law into their own hands. "I killed him because he admitted his guilt" says the mother. Well, there is no way it can be proved now, is there? The main person we would want to interrogate is dead... We have three kids who, perhaps rightly, claim that they had been molested. But that ain't proof, not really. Get him into court, sort the whole thing out, and then - off with his goolies!
From: absintheredux
[Green Death]
Date: 8-Oct-2007 16:38
From: bagga [Txips] Date: 8-Oct-2007 16:07 People persist in missing my point... BUT, I still maintain that it is wrong for individuals to take the law into their own hands. _____________________________________________ You are missing the difference between "wrong" and "illegal". She did not. She turned herself in (kudos) showing she understands "illegal". But she was NOT "wrong". Hurt my family -- Pay the price!
From: morte266
[Old and Tired]
Date: 8-Oct-2007 17:41
Bagga and GD: Exactly my point, GD (Damn, I don't believe I just said that) What she did was illegal.. she knew it was illegal.. she just really didn't give a damn at the time. This man hurt her kids and was obviously a continuing threat to her and her family... and she handled the situation. Legal and Illegal are written codes that people must follow or pay the price for not following... Right and Wrong are values and depend on the society and culture that a person is in and was raised in. And those values are subject to change as each new generation comes into their majority where as laws changed only when they are repealed or ammended by vote. What she did was illegal, but it was only wrong if a majority of the people in her area consider it wrong. That is why our judicial system is set up the way it is. You have a judge and at least two lawyers in a trial who know the law.. and if it was just dependent on the written code they could handle the trial all by themselves. The jury of your peers is there primarily to say whether what you did was "right or wrong" according to the mores of the society you live in... she intentionally killed him... that falls under murder (intentionally causing an unjustified death) under the written code.. but she was acquitted of murder by a jury of her peers because they felt that the bastard deserved what he got. She got Voluntary Manslaughter instead... which the law states as causing a death by your willfull actions but not intentionally causing a wrongful death.. which basically means the jury believed the ass deserved killing, but she shouldn't have taken the law in her own hands to do it... after all she shot the bastard 10 times... saying she didn't intend that act to kill him is kinda funny when ya think about it, so the reasoning has to be tha though she intentionally did it and shouldn't ahve.. it was not a wrongful death. The Japanese probably said it best hundreds of years ago... Duty and honor... sometimes you must choose one or the other because you can't always satisfy both... in her case she had a duty to her family to protect them and a duty to society to obey its laws... and she couldn't satisfy both of those duties so she made a choice to do the duty to her family and then chose to stand up and willfully accept the punishment society felt just for failing her duty to obey its laws. And... from what I've read here the majority of Rotteners seem to agree with her... which means in our lil "Society" her actions were considered "right" whether they be illegal or not.
From: slyslick [andwicked]
Date: 8-Oct-2007 18:18
Sometimes the letter of the law, is very different from the spirit of the law. We have gotten too far away from the latter, IMHO.
Updated: 12-Oct-2007 14:47
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