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On Which Day Did He Create Condoms?
Wire Services | Submitted by: Diaper Drew
"A Connecticut abortion rights group has angered some conservative Christian groups by selling condom key chains that include an image of Michelangelo's
Sistine Chapel with God handing Adam a condom." ... "She said 100,000 visitors swamped the site on Thursday, causing it to shut down temporarily, after Internet columnist Matt Drudge posted a statement by a conservative Christian group condemning the key chains as blasphemous."
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From: jarama7 [brigadist]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 04:52
i fully understand those xtians. Why should you control birth when you can effectively control life? It's much more profit for their industries in killing 18 civilians in Pakistan (the bombs, the information agencies,the comissions, etc) than in allowing people to decide how many children they want or to allow them to avoid sexual diseases (also an enormous profit producing machine. Merciful people indeed...
From: adolfhithere [Adolf H]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 05:01
less planned parenthood! less abortions! more good christian values!
From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 05:10
"This does nothing to deal with the horrific promiscuity rate we have among teenagers," he said. "We believe the real approach particularly to the young people that this is targeted at is abstinence before marriage." ---------------------------- Abstinence does not work, especially when you expect young people with brand new horomones to know how to control them. This deals specifically with the "horrific promiscuity rate" by telling teenagers how to protect themselves from disease and pregnancy. When, oh when is the Catholic Church going to get it's head out from under it's cassock and realize that it's methods haven't worked for the last 1500 years and probably won't work in the future? And why is Monty Python's "Every Sperm is Sacred" running through my head?
From: rochellerochelle [spanky is my fish]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 05:38
Waah! Waah! Lets just call the fucking christians a whole bunch of Waambulances, and they can go and fucking cry a little bit more. And they can bury their heads in the sand, and not eat meat on fridays, and raise every unwanted crack baby and then die and rot because there is no God, and no afterlife, and why are they all such a bunch of nosy, holier-than-thou fuckers anyway? The key chain a cool idea, I want one. Bite my ass, christians. Oh Lord! SAVE ME FROM YOUR FOLLOWERS!! Phew. On day five of a two week herbal detox, and i'm slightly grouchy! Sorry bout that. 
From: tucanscrew
[three's more fun]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 05:42
if aborted fetuses could tithe, the church wouldn't have an issue with it. There is supposed to be a separation of church and state. We all know this is not the case. It is however the reason that churches are exempt from taxes. IMO we should tax churches (on both property and income) until such time as pastors stop endorsing politicians and politicians stop throwing around the word God.
From: twiglet [Mmmm. Salty.]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 05:43
-- Kristian Mineau, president of the conservative Massachusetts Family Institute, called the Sistine Chapel key chain image "a very crude and crass manoeuvre." -- And parading around pictures of aborted fetuses isn't crude and crass?
From: wingedmonkeyminion [Satan Himself]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 05:56
That's what I like about blasphemy... it's not illegal or bad for my health. I can blaspheme all day long and hurt no one. And if there really were such a thing as a God and a Jesus, they'd laugh along with us. Christians think they understand Jews. End up understanding nothing.
From: loveto [Jill Awf]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 06:13
Gotta love how anything mildly clever is bound to insult someone. Didnt some christian rights commision (haha) just take issue with an episode of south park? I love how nobody cared until the drudge report got a hold of it. Shows you how people become aware of the world these days. I hope all the people that swamped the site bought a keychain.
From: splittheatom
[Assless]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 06:14
The funniest part: "The media attention led to an avalanche of orders so much so that it caused our Web site to shut down. We have expanded our capacity and it is up again today," she said". Hardly anyone knew about these things until the Xtian groups raised shit about it. Now Planned Parenthood will barely be able to keep up with the demand.
From: stpdrckr420 [Ailise]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 06:35
Ha! That's so fucking hilarious! I wonder if these people realize that since we're all descended from Adam and Eve, that we're all incest, no matter what....
From: s1mps0n [Smarter Than You]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 07:14
Hey christian groups you claim these guys MURDER unborn children! So how the hell can you really get mad when they are just giving out condoms, it is a whole hell of a lot better then stabbing a fetus in the head with a vacuum. Or maybe not if you are an batshit crazy religious type, I think they would only be satisfied if the planned parenthood people were burning in a pyre.
From: fifteensixtyfive [They ALL want cake.]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 07:20
The headline describes the church's "furore"...is that a kind of special religious furor? Certainly Yahoo wouldn't have made an embarassing spelling error in something so important as a headline.
From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 07:22
These zealots are only concerned for the baby BEFORE it's born. After that, they couldn't care less. Until it wants to have sex. Then they get concerned all over again. Christians can suck the fun out of a wet dream and often try to do just that.
From: blackmagic [Blackmagic]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 07:42
Yet again Christians try to make things worse for everyone with their failed logic and minds still dwelling in the middle ages.
From: fuller [Brush]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 08:09
Furore is the British spelling. This story was from a U.K. wire. It also includes a pounds breakdown (1.7) of the $3 keychain. Too bad the story didn't have photos.
From: 2muchfun [Wulfgar the having too much fun]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 08:36
If you're down there you'll want the Florida Keys pack.  Double up and live.
From: stoner79
[Josh]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 08:41
As soon as I read this, I went to the Planned Parenthood site and bought 30 keychains, so I can give them all to my damned friends. Seriously, support these people! Buy a fucking keychain. They're really cute. and who wouldn't want a keychain with the statue of liberty holding a rubber? Classic. I'm so sick of the whole goddamed country being a focus group, i've decided to put my money where my mouth is. I'm spending money on causes I believe in, and have stopped buying anything retail, except groceries, and then I try to buy from private businesses, not corporations. CDc, DVDs, clothes, household stuff, the whole nine yards. What I can't buy used, I steal. Everytime you go to a public bathroom - throw a roll of toilet paper in your bag. You'll never run out.
From: survivalist [pass the joint...and the ammo.]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 08:47
This is why I practice my own brand of Christianity.. I don't give a rats ass about blasphemy and I only pray that I will win the lotto. People like this are giving me a bad name.. How can I wear my giant platinum diamond studded cross with a spinning Jesus on it, when everybody thinks I am gonna harp on them about stupid shit?
From: jesuschrist [Your Faith has healed you]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 08:50
Hi, I'm Jesus Christ. And I like to fuck. I fucked my virgin mom and butt fucked my earthly dad and I fucked my disciples. And when I'm not physically fucking my followers, I'm fucking with their minds. But why? you ask. Because I'm Jesus, bitch. Now get down on bended knees and pray for my living waters to pour into your sinful mouth.
From: snyznyk [snyznyk]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 09:03
An Erisian Hymn by Rev. Dr. Mungojerry Grindlebone, KOB Episkopos, THE RAYVILLE APPLE PANTHERS Onwards Christian Soldiers, Onwards Buddhist Priests. Onward, Fruits of Islam, Fight till you're deceased. Fight your little battles. Join in thickest fray; For the Greater Glory, of Dis-cord-i-a. Yah, yah, yah, Yah, yah, yah, yah. Blfffffffffffft!
From: snyznyk [snyznyk]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 09:04
THE BEARER OF THIS CARD IS A GENUINE AND AUTHORIZED ~ POPE ~ So please Treat Him Right GOOD FOREVER Genuine and authorized by The House of Apostles of ERIS ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Every man, woman and child on this Earth is a genuine and authorized Pope Reproduce and distribute these cards freely- POEE Head Temple, San Francisco A =POPE= is someone who is not under the authority of the authorities.
From: dadofautism [*****]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 09:54
It looks like Connecticut Planned Parenthood need to send Matt Drudge a thank you card, or a used condom, filled with the love of the lord- or semen. Jesus- you're funny! The blasphemy thing was good, too.
From: nightskygoddess1 [-poke-]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 09:59
hail Eris! oooo now i have a craving for an apple....heh
From: wino [wino]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 10:22
I wonder how many hits it would take to shut down the Drudge report?
From: detroitbrat [Detroit Brat]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 10:32
The Catholics and fundies have driven me to rant. Please do not lump all Christians together, especially when the Roman Catholic church is involved. Since the second century the Roman Catholics have been bastardizing the Cannons for their own benefit and blind following of their people. Directly from the The Sacramental Life of the Orthodox Church. "Sexual relations are related to the mutual fulfillment of the spouses and then to child-bearing. The decision, therefore, to suspend fertility through the use of contraceptives is not in violation of natural law. While the Orthodox Church fully acknowledges the role of procreation in the marital sexual act, it does not share the deterministic understanding of the act which ignores love as a dimension of great value in sexual intercourse." In the past years, the Catholic church has made motions to reconsile with the Orthodox church but has yet to agree to the original, unbastardized Cannons and giving up their pope. In the meantime, the Orthodox Church teaches it's parishioners that birth control is acceptable. I ordered keychains for both my son and my daughter, because I believe I've taught them what I feel is right for our family, but I'm not stupid enough to think that hormones never get the best of teenagers.
From: guntotingliberal [GunTotingLiberal]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 11:18
The best part though is how Christians love to co-op Michelangelo's painting. Michelangelo was a flaming homosexual. You would think they would want nothing to do with a painting by a gay man of two men touching each other. "Since the 2nd century the roman catholic church..."in the second century there was only the roman catholic church. Sheesh. All christianity has it's roots from the same origin. That's what all christianity evolved from, regardless of what flavor is practiced. The christian god allowed this to happen.
From: theallseeingear [Bavid Dyrden]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 11:20
I'm really sorry to see the Catholic Church is offended by this key chain, but I hope they in turn understand that the rest of us were a little upset when they helped all those priests to rape all those children.
From: guntotingliberal [GunTotingLiberal]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 11:31
detriotbrat, I fail to see how the Roman Catholics have been abusing the canons since the 2nd century. For the first 1,021 years of Christianity there was just the holy catholic church of the apostles. Now there are over 2600 variants of christianity all claiming to be the church of christ. While I have no love at all for Catholicism all varieties seem to be abusing the canons for their own ends. It appears to be a common theme throughout christianity.
From: bonevalleyalco [Harvey Henkelman]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 11:43
How come these religious wackos don't speak up about our guys over there in Iraq being blown up? I have an idea: Women who'd otherwise undergo an abortion should instead deliver their babies. Pro-lifers should then be forced to adopt these children, and be expected to raise them until they are of legal adult age. If they cannot do this, then their beliefs and opinions are insignificant, and should be unacknowledged.
From: marlysfan [Guy Incognito]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 13:37
if aborted fetuses could tithe, the church wouldn't have an issue with it. ----------------------------------------------------------------- I love it! Tucan wins the prestigious Quote of the Day award!
From: lordpakul [Lord Pakul]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 14:13
Wash away your filthy rotten sins with Pope-On-A-Rope. 
From: detroitbrat [Detroit Brat]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 15:00
guntotingliberal, I apologize, my timing was off. The Great Schism occurred in 1054 A.D. which separated the Christian Church into two parts, the Western Church (Catholic)and the Eastern Church (Orthodox. The Roman Patriarch (Pope) headed the Western Roman Catholic Church. The other four Patriarchs of Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria and Constantinople headed the Eastern Orthodox Church. The Western Church gave all authority to the Pope. The Eastern Church was firmly committed to a traditional approach to authority by which decisions of faith, doctrine, canon law and discipline are made through the people. In 1517 a devout Roman Catholic monk in Germany opposed abuses of the Roman Pope that were occurring at that time. His protest came to be known as the Protestant Reformation and began a third movement in Christianity. This Reformation occurred in the Western Church, not the Eastern Church. We now have all the different "brands" of Christianity that were splintered off the Catholics. As far as the Cannons go, the Catholic interpretation is dependent on the current pope. I'm not sure what the Protestant interpretation is because I've never studied it. The Orthodox interpretation has remained intact with all it's traditions. Abuse comes in when the church leaders are allowed to become political.
From: melvin69 [John Bong]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 15:07
There is supposed to be a separation of church and state. We all know this is not the case. It is however the reason that churches are exempt from taxes. IMO we should tax churches (on both property and income) until such time as pastors stop endorsing politicians and politicians stop throwing around the word God. If the government would tax churches, that would cross the separation of church and state. I forget the person who said it and I'm probably paraphrasing it but, "The power to tax is the power to destroy." Once there is a tax on churches, it would only take some tax increases on them to destroy them. While some people might find this ok since it is religion, others would be appalled by this idea as it would be effective on anything the government wanted to outlaw. Taxes was the first step in the marijuana prohibition.
From: doczzz
[dwarf fusion]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 15:21
detroitbrat, All the branches of Christianity come from the same tree. Here, from our very own "Today in Rotten History": Jan 14 1601
Authorities of the Catholic Church burn a large percentage of the Hebrew books in Rome. Monks targeted the books because they felt they portrayed Jesus in a blasphemous manner. It would have been healthier to burn the monks. This isn't even close to the first time this has happened to 'gnostic' texts: [rotten.com] Can any branch of Christianity claim to have a knowledge of the true gospel? Book burning and suppression of 'heresy' has been going on since before the founding of the Church by Constantine in the 3rd century. [reformation.org] . Funny how the early Christians took on the exact tools and philosophy of the pagan Romans who suppressed them. I think we need to throw the baby out with the bathwater on this one and start over...
From: guntotingliberal [GunTotingLiberal]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 18:38
Detriotbrat, Sorry if I came of harsh - not my intention. Religion tends to get my hackles up. I have made an amatuer study of it over the years and even lost a close friend to a cultish branch of the worship of the Christ. I didn't mean to offend.
From: twdldee [twdldee]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 20:13
It's great because it implies that God is Adam's butt buddy. Yum yum. the holy jizz
From: jdrla [JDR]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 20:26
I really hope that the people who posted such hateful comments against Christians will read and try to understand what I am about to say. First, I am not Catholic and never will be. I disagree with the majority of their teachings. However, I agree with them on the only point that matters: Jesus Christ is the son of God and the savior of the earth. I don't understand how people can spew hatred against Christ and Christian values. Christians have the right to take offense to those things that go against the teaching of the faith. There is nothing wrong with this. In addition to being a Christian, I am an American. I have the right to choose any religion I please. I realize that every one else does too. I'm not criticizing anybody's choice of religion. In my heart I know that those who don't accept Jesus will never make it to heaven; however, after witnessing to people, if they choose not to accept Christ, I continue to pray for them...I don't put them down and say they don't have the right to be offended by certain acts, etc. All I'm saying is that everybody has the right to feel how they want to feel - including Christians. I think it isn't necessary to put us down for standing up for what we believe. I think that people/religions/groups, etc should agree to disagree and not put down the opposing group because of their stance. Thank you for listening. Please don't post hateful comments in regard to this posting. I respect your opinion, and I truly hope that you can respect mine (and everybody else's)!
From: doczzz
[dwarf fusion]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 21:22
From: jdrla [JDR]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 20:26
...Please don't post hateful comments in regard to this posting. I respect your opinion, and I truly hope that you can respect mine (and everybody else's)! jdrla, If Christians don't kill, harm, slander, coerce, or otherwise harass non-Christians for their beliefs, then why would anyone hate them? *****
I'm not criticizing anybody's choice of religion. In my heart I know that those who don't accept Jesus will never make it to heaven Cool, I won't criticize your religion either. We'll just have to disagree on which one of us can go to hell.
From: wulfgartheblack [Wulfgar the Black]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 21:39
Detroit Brat, You've only begun to trace the theocratic threads. For instance; Amerikan Baptists claim NOT to be Protestants - at least that's the line I've gotten from several low-to-mid-level officials in branches [again] of that group. They claim to be THE Church in unbroken line from Jesus Himself and that all the others, including Catholic, are latecomers and wannabes. They are pretty vague on where their special little bunch were hiding for the first 15 or 16 centuries but if you can swallow the basic Xian dogma a little matter of leaving no trace for over fifteen hundred years is easily glossed over. Then there's Henry VIII co-opting the Pope's [oops, Bishop of Rome's] direct hot-line to heaven. He wasn't reforming just taking over. We won't even start on the multiple simultaneous Popes of the middle ages or the Jews for Jesus or Joseph Smith and the magic seeing-stone [spectacles]. The interesting thing to me is that each and every little splinter claims to be THE only way and have THE only truth and that ALL the others are fools on their way straight to Hell. That's just the Xians. Each and every religion I ever heard of - all the way back to Gilgamesh - has similar internal fractures with every shard likewise claiming to hold the sole, exclusive contract. As for the idea that Man is as good as it gets, the best that Gawd could do. The reason to make the entire Universe - so there'd be someplace for us to be. LMAO. What kind of a two-bit half-wit Gawd couldn't do better any than us? Have you read rotten.com? Would you praise a thing that couldn't come up with a better top-o'-the-line than Man?
From: rocco
[I'm the funny man!]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 22:32
JDR and Jerry Bourbon, I think that you're both missing a very fundamental point. These conservative religious and political groups don't want to merely profess their own beliefs and moral standings; they want to impose them on everyone else, and that's what some of us have a real problem with.
From: theallseeingear [Bavid Dyrden]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 23:08
>> "I agree with them on the only point that matters: Jesus Christ is >> the son of God and the savior of the earth." And I respect your right to believe that, jdrla, though I cannot think of a single good reason why you would choose to do so. >> "I don't understand how people can spew hatred against Christ >> and Christian values." I, too, don't understand how anyone can spew hatred against Christ. How do they know what Christ was like or what he stood for? He never wrote a book to spell out his beliefs. All we have are word-of-mouth stories, written down many years after his death and probably very distorted. It would be unfair to assume that we understood Christ well enough to dislike him. But I can understand why "Christian values" should arouse resentment. They have led to the murder of many thousands of people. Today, in all the post-Christian countries, there is hatred and discrimination against homosexuals; in non-Christian countries like Japan, there is not. This hate comes from the Bible. >> "Christians have the right to take offense to those things that go >> against the teaching of the faith. " Of course they have, jdrla, of course they have. >> "In my heart I know that those who don't accept Jesus will >> never make it to heaven" See my first comment above. >> "I think that people/religions/groups, etc should agree to disagree >> and not put down the opposing group because of their stance. " Well, jdrla, I don't agree with this. There was once a religion in the Middle East whose "stance" was to burn babies in a furnace. Their God Baal demanded these sacrifices. Would you not "put them down" for this sincerely held religious belief?
From: rocco
[I'm the funny man!]
Date: 15-Jan-2006 23:32
Thank you, allseeingear, for being a voice of reason here. As far as the Bible goes, it is pretty much all hearsay; why else would there be "the gospel according to Matthew," "according to Mark," etc? As for the resentment issue, well, there have probably been more wars, death and destruction in the name of religion than in anything else. If there is anything that one might want to glean from the Bible, then The Ten Commandments would most likely be a good place to start, as they pretty much sum up how everyone, regardless of their particular persuasions, should conduct themselves at home and in society. Ten simple rules...don't kill anyone, don't take things that aren't yours, don't go fucking your neighbor's wife, etc. Sure, they're common sense guidelines, so I have no idea why people feel the need to complicate things with unnecessary rhetoric, arguments or interpretations.
From: chickenlittle [IToldYouItWasFalling]
Date: 16-Jan-2006 02:16
Only half of the Ten Commandments would loosely apply to Atheists, Agnostics, Pagans or any other major religion. 1."I am the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt..." 2."You shall have no other gods besides Me...Do not make a sculpted image or any likeness of what is in the heavens above..." 3."You shalt not swear falsely by the name of the Lord..." 4."Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy" 5."Honor your father and your mother..." 6."You shall not murder" - The Hebrew Bible makes a distinction between murdering and killing. 7."You shall not commit adultery" 8."You shall not steal" 9."You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor" 10."You shall not covet your neighbor's house..." The first four are strictly christian and/or Jewish, this is the big problem with putting it in a government owned area. Five is debatable as an actual law of society. "Thou shalt not murder" could be construed to mean killing is okay as long as it's done for a reason, like the church/god told me to do it. The sculpted image part is funny cause it means that Michelangelo shouldn't have been painting ANYTHING showing heaven, especially god.
From: chickenlittle [IToldYouItWasFalling]
Date: 16-Jan-2006 02:20
But I digress, condoms for all! Except these painful looking suckers. 
From: wingedmonkeyminion [Satan Himself]
Date: 16-Jan-2006 04:08
The comments from the two christians here proves a point... obviously neither one has read the Bible all the way through. It doesn't damage your brain to read it, just to believe in it. I will become a Jewish Christian once I can start to understand such errancies as: people rising from the graves simply to die again, unicorns, satyrs, flying fire-breathing serpents, scribes assuming to know their diety's hearts, and Leviathan. Seems no one is aware of the cryptography Shakespeare introduced into Psalms 46. Christians, bah! They never understand Judaism. They only pretend to. The Bible. WHAT A LOAD OF ANCIENT CRAP!! Jews don't believe in "hell", so apparently it's another christian fabrication. This is why we hate. We hate lies, and the lying liars who tell them.
From: jesuschrist [Your Faith has healed you]
Date: 16-Jan-2006 04:10
"Anyone who sell their brain to a mass organization isn't worth two cents" - Jesus Christ, Ass Kicker.
From: weewilly [Wee Willy]
Date: 16-Jan-2006 04:25
To those believing christians i will just say ----- with all the war and killing of millions of innocent in our world today, i think god couldnt care less if people use condoms. Which of these are worse ?
From: ciaochowbella [I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 16-Jan-2006 05:33
Why is that Christians feel the need to 'witness' to us non-Christians? As if we hadn't heard of Christ or the Bible... I am a Pagan. I was raised a Southern Baptist. And I believe that I speak for many Pagans when I say, please quit trying to convert us. We have heard your message. It is around us everywhere, everyday, everywhere we look. As a Pagan, I believe in the rightness of ALL religion. Each person must get to their Creator in their own way. I also believe in the rightness of NO religion. What I object to most in Christianity, or any faith, is the belief that they are absolutely right and everyone who doesn't believe their way is absolutely wrong and damned to hell. IMO, God/Goddess/Whatever you call It is too busy running the Universe to be concerned about trifles. And after a study of several religions, I've come to a rather startling, but simple, conclusion...it all comes down to TWO very simple rules. 1)Love, honor and worship your Creator. 2)Love, honor and worship each person as children of that Creator. Everything else is how you chose to pray. If God/Goddess/Whatever is this great, vast, unknowable being, perhaps the only way to get a clearer image of It is to take everybody's idea of It and put them all together in a mosaic of faith. Everybody should quit tying to put God in a box.
From: rocco
[I'm the funny man!]
Date: 16-Jan-2006 07:02
bella, I like what I'm hearing from you! Life is entirely too short and complicated to be worrying about everyone else's beliefs. I know that it's cliche, but...can't we all just get along?
From: jerrybourbon [Jerry Bourbon]
Date: 16-Jan-2006 07:58
To Rocco If the MAJORITY of Christians were truly intolerant of others, you and I would live in a theocracy right now, because 80% of the population is some kind of Christian or other. The vast majority of Christians are quite tolerant, and the intolerant minority is very loudmouthed. There are over 70 million Catholics in America. Have you EVER heard a Catholic trying to ban another religion? As to imposing beliefs on others, if one considers abortion to be murder, one has to ban it. I personally could care less about abortion (every aborted fetus is one less welfare recipient) but consider killing an adult with an ax, for example, to be murder. And I am glad that that is illegal. The VAST MAJORITY of Americans, do not want gay marriage, yet the homos are trying to "impose" their beliefs on the rest of us regarding this subject. The vast majority of Americans eats meat, yet the PETA lunatics are trying to impose their views on the rest of us by banning it. In San Diego, there is a cross on top of a hill that has been there since World War II in honor of veterans. In a recent election, three quarters of the population voted to keep the cross. Yet a few asshole athiests keep suing to have it taken down. Who is intolerant here?
From: jerrybourbon [Jerry Bourbon]
Date: 16-Jan-2006 08:06
Ciaochowbella, WHICH Christians are witnessing to the "rest of you"? I doubt if a Catholic ever has. Or a Prebsbterian. Or a member of an A.M.E or C.O.G.I.C church. Or a Lutheran, or Episcopalian, or Christian Scientist. Between them, they represent about 75% of all Christians. And they DO NOT ACTIVELY SEEK CONVERTS. In other words, they are TOLERANT of you as a pagan. That does not mean that they necessarily LIKE you, but in a free country, you do not have to like someone. As to those seeking converts so what? Are you that insecure in your beliefs that you cannot defend them to someone who believes differently. I (Roman Catholic that I am) get a kick out of answering the door when it is a Mormon or Jehovahs Witness holding an open bottle of whiskey and scratching my balls. They do not threaten my beliefs, so I, unlike you, am not afraid of them. Then again, I am secure in my (scant) beliefs. Now I think I will go back to fornicating, drinking and gambling.
From: mmaacks [The truck have started to move]
Date: 16-Jan-2006 08:10
Chrisianity is just a ripoff of local pagan beliefs anyway. Mithra anyone?
From: theallseeingear [Bavid Dyrden]
Date: 16-Jan-2006 08:35
>> "The VAST MAJORITY of Americans, do not want gay marriage, yet the homos >> are trying to "impose" their beliefs on the rest of us regarding this >> subject. Could somebody please explain how Gay Marriage would be an imposition on the straight population? They would not be forced to marry a gay person. They would not be forced to attend a gay wedding. They would be free to marry each other exactly as they always did. So what's the problem? When people talk about "defending traditional marriage", what are they defending it from? Is it going to stop all of a sudden?
From: jdrla [JDR]
Date: 16-Jan-2006 10:39
theallseeingear (David Dyrden): THis is the same arguement I have, only concerning Christianity. Why is it such an imposition on the non-Christians for Christians to worship and practice their faith? I am strictly speaking of Protestants (non-Catholics) and from the perspective of today's world. There are no people being killed over (Protestant) Christianity anymore (and if there are people claiming that they kill for God's sake, they are of the devil, not God). I don't understand why it's easy to accept that stars such as Tom Cruise can practice Scientology and nobody says anything negative about it...yet when I express my Christian views, people get all up in arms about it. I am not trying to impose my views on anyone else. I just believe what I believe is all. I respect others to believe how they believe as well. Homosexuals have a right to want equal rights under the law. I don't necessarily agree with gay marriage, but I'm not someone who is trying to get it banned, stopped, etc. Also, in response to your question of whether I would "put down" those worshippers of Baal, the answer is yes, but that is an action, not a stance. A stance is a viewpoint, or a belief. A horrible action, such as child sacrifice, is different. If they thought that babies should be sacrificed and sincerely held this belief, but didn't act on it, then I wouldn't have as much of a problem with it. People have the right to think what they want, right? IT's when they begin to act on these beliefs that I have a serious problem with it. However, I personally feel that people today who have abortions are in the same category as those Baal worshippers. Maybe today's people might even be worse in some way...Anyway, that's another story.
From: detroitbrat [Detroit Brat]
Date: 16-Jan-2006 12:41
No, you didn't come out harsh at all, I simply took it as a debatable item, as I'm hoping you did as well. I understand your aggravation on the subject, I have a very similar issue. I'll be the first to admit that I tend to get a little riled when it comes to cult brands of Christianity.
From: detroitbrat [Detroit Brat]
Date: 16-Jan-2006 13:14
"Doczzz Detroitbrat, All the branches of Christianity come from the same tree." Absolutely! Actually the Christian, Jewish, & Muslim beliefs all come from the same texts, and therefore from the same "tree". Like a tree, the trunk branched off from there. As per your last response regarding burning Hebrew texts, yes the Catholic church burned a great many documents and continues to this day to hide others. The Apocryphal (gnostic) books, some of which are held by the Catholic church may never see the light of day again. They are not accepted as true and divinely inspired. Some of them were written much later but attributed to important individuals of the apostolic times. Some of these books are held by the Orthodox church, and the writings are taught to this day. I don't know for fact that this means that the Orthodox church holds the TRUE gospel, but at least the theologists admit that there are a great number of missing documents and information. There are probably still hundreds of documents still buried in the desert. For the record, the Catholics don't claim Constantine as the first pope, that would be Peter. Under Constantine (Emperor) the Christian church was headed by six "Metropolitans" (think archbishops or cardinals).
From: detroitbrat [Detroit Brat]
Date: 16-Jan-2006 13:37
wulfgartheblack, I can't imagine even trying to trace each theocratic thread in today's society. I don't know anything about Baptists, nor what texts they derive their beliefs from. I don't know, maybe they do have God's ear, but I'd have to agree with you in that I have issues with the extremely large gap in their history. As far "the idea that Man is as good as it gets, the best that Gawd could do". Who's to say? Maybe God is the ultimate practical joker and we're all living it? There is a lot of horror in the world and rotten.com points it out to us every day. I suppose there is something missing in my character because I'm here most days, reading it. There is also a lot of good in the world, but it doesn't make for juicy reading in our society. In the meantime, I just try to be the best person that I can be and raise my children to do the same. I'm not perfect (not even within a shred of being close) and God knows my children are not perfect either. I do thank God on a daily basis that I'm still here and can see the godliness in people. I realize that lowers my credibility on this particular website, but it's what I believe and respect your right to believe otherwise.
From: godisintheatm
[Through me you pass into the city of woe]
Date: 17-Jan-2006 02:53
I think I'm going to start mass-producing T-shirts with that pic on it. If Jesus were here, he'd have to start all over again. The system that he railed against and died opposing is still in place. Jesus was a lecherous gluttonous drunk who hung out with the wrong crowd. The fundys had him killed as a very public example of what not to do. The fundys are still in power.
From: madcow2 [Cathy]
Date: 18-Jan-2006 04:11
Jerry said " Have you EVER heard a Catholic trying to ban another religion?" Yes actually. Have you forgotten the Spanish Inquisition? They tortured people to death who didn't agree with the Catholic Church. How about "Bloody" Mary, half sister of Elizabeth the First? If you did not become Catholic, old Mary had you executed. If trying to exterminate all other religions by killing their people isn't banning another religion, I don't know what is.
From: crawlspace [crawlspace]
Date: 18-Jan-2006 07:42
the more i read about the crap that christians do, the more i feel like a heel for having been involved in church for so long. what the hell...they're just condoms. there are much worse things to worry about.
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