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Gun Nuts Gotta Eat Too
AP | Submitted by: ikthool
"The armed customers stood up in unison, showing off their holstered pistols and revolvers. Jackson said a word or two about the rights of gun owners to carry firearms in Virginia, then thanked everyone for their attention and sat down. The diners returned to their burgers and Budweisers."
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From: gargoyle1
Date: 14-May-2008 13:34
The real bonus here is that if the service or food are lousy you can shoot the fucking waiter. If you see him pissing in your food, shoot for the balls!
From: guitarded [Jimi Vaughan]
Date: 14-May-2008 13:38
Also, absolutely no robberies occurred during the meal, and that says something.
From: ikthool
[ikthool]
Date: 14-May-2008 13:59
Some guy got tanked and was showing off his gun in a place I worked. The police came and took it. I doubt he got it back.
From: sussler [Lou Sussler]
Date: 14-May-2008 14:03
I would be extremely uncomfortable if I were dining in a restaurant and a number of people stood up, displayed weapons and made an announcement. Would I react. NO, THEY HAVE GUNS. Who the hell needs to wear a sidearm to eat a burger? We Need to Repeal the Second Amendment!
From: jesussavez [Just hanging around]
Date: 14-May-2008 14:12
From: sussler [Lou Sussler] Date: 14-May-2008 14:03 I would be extremely uncomfortable if I were dining in a restaurant and a number of people stood up, displayed weapons and made an announcement. Would I react. NO, THEY HAVE GUNS. Who the hell needs to wear a sidearm to eat a burger? We Need to Repeal the Second Amendment! ============================================= Hey numbnuts, the 2nd Amendment is there for when the government ignores the others.
From: tat2dchick
[The Tattooed Lady]
Date: 14-May-2008 14:27
The only time a gun would make me nervous is if somebody aimed it at me. Other than that, if you're a law abiding citizen then strap a dozen guns on yourself, I don't give a damn. As I've mentioned in the past, I have my own concealed permit and carry daily. *shrug*
From: gargoyle1
Date: 14-May-2008 14:28
sussler [Lou Sussler] Date: 14-May-2008 14:03 I would be extremely uncomfortable if I were dining in a restaurant and a number of people stood up, displayed weapons and made an announcement. Would I react. NO, THEY HAVE GUNS. Who the hell needs to wear a sidearm to eat a burger? We Need to Repeal the Second Amendment! ======================== You really are fucking stupid aren't you? 
From: abluecommunist
[Red is for republicans, dammit!]
Date: 14-May-2008 14:47
I would be extremely uncomfortable if I were dining in a restaurant and a number of armed paramilitary police came in, displayed weapons and began rounding up the patrons and staff to search for illegal aliens and political dissidents. Would I react. NO, THEY HAVE GUNS (and we do not). /ftfy //welcome to rotten, enjoy your stay
From: dijitz [10101]
Date: 14-May-2008 15:11
"We Need to Repeal the Second Amendment!" Gotta be a troll...nobody's that stupid, right? Please read some history for fuck's sake!
From: erethism [i suspect]
Date: 14-May-2008 15:33
a waitress at Red Lobster had to ask an elderly gun owner who was stirring his xl cocktail with the barrel of his revolver to leave along with his date, he later lost his carry permit
From: mrsstipic [Mrs. Stipic]
Date: 14-May-2008 16:06
People who are terrified of all guns are the liberal equivalent of idiot conservatives that kill every snake they see, no matter if it's harmless.
From: smokey
[krispy]
Date: 14-May-2008 16:06
guns arent fucking toys. having a gun carrys alot of responsibility. had to get rid of my 32 pistol, because my temperment is too bad.
From: yetifeltcher [Apeman cumeth]
Date: 14-May-2008 16:25
All these sobbing weenies bitching about guns being dangerous in the hands of everyday people, but don't bat an eye when those same people get behind the wheel of a car. A lawful citizen carrying a handgun for personal protection doesn't worry me one bit. I've been around plenty. A soccer mom with a cellphone and a SUV full of snot-nosed brats scares the shit out of me!
From: sp00k
Date: 14-May-2008 16:31
He also said he had been warned by the restaurant's owners about the visit and instructed not to allow the group service while carrying. ========  Excuse me?
From: sp00k
Date: 14-May-2008 16:38
"The McDonald's Massacre" incident resulted in 21 deaths and 19 injuries at a McDonald's in the San Ysidro section of San Diego, California, on July 18, 1984. On October 16, 1991, George Jo Hennard drove his 1987 Ford Ranger pickup truck through the front window of a Luby's Cafeteria Killeen, Texas. About 80 people were in Luby's at the time. He stalked down and killed 23 people and wounded another 20 before dying by suicide. It remained the deadliest shooting rampage in American history until the Virginia Tech Massacre. ========= I'd rather have armed customers than have to wait for the police to get there, set up their command center, secure a perimeter, call swat & air support then wait for the gunman to run out of bullets before taking the nut out.
From: ikthool
[ikthool]
Date: 14-May-2008 16:52
>>>A lawful citizen carrying a handgun for personal protection doesn't worry me one bit. I've been around plenty. A soccer mom with a cellphone and a SUV full of snot-nosed brats scares the shit out of me! <<< Yeah, you hit that right on the head. I don't think any vehicle over 3 tons should be available in automatic. You wanna drive a lincoln navigator? Actually drive it bitch!
From: ciaochowbella
[I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 14-May-2008 16:52
Saslaw said he's not necessarily surprised that VCDL found restaurants in the region that would allow them to dine while armed. But he said that carrying guns is simply not normal behavior in this area. "What normal person walks around with a gun on your hip? Something's wrong in your life" if you feel compelled to carry a gun as part of your daily routine, he said. ---------------------------- Lots of 'normal' people carry guns on a daily basis. Mr. Saslaw, you, sir, are a whiny, sanctimonious twat who expects someone else to fight your battles and protect your property and person. Man up, grow a pair and buy a gun. **************** Lou Sussler, you, sir, are a whiny sanctimonious twat who expects someone else to fight your battles and protect your property and person. Man up, grow a pair and buy a gun.....then do us all a favor and shoot yourself.
From: doublenigger [DICKS EVERYWHERE]
Date: 14-May-2008 17:03
I've been robbed at gun point. Twice. That being said, I'm in favor of this. Law abiding citizens carrying holstered weapons don't concern me. It's the niggers and white trash tucking their guns into their waistbands that are the problem.
From: nzgothpott [Smokingthe Reefer]
Date: 14-May-2008 17:11
>"What normal person walks around with a gun on your hip? Something's wrong in >your life" if you feel compelled to carry a gun as part of your daily routine, Yeah, Its been quoted already but this guy is a fkking legend at stating the what should be obvious. On the other hand, in the states, whats obvious to the rest of us seems to be arcane knowledge to many americants. >"Lou Sussler, you, sir, are a whiny sanctimonious twat who expects someone >else to fight your battles and protect your property and person." "Fight your battles." ....fight your battles with a handgun? Seriously... if it was a choice between a) keeping my property and b) being a murdering, callous, 'all-american-fuckbag'? Shit man, its only stuff. You fricking prig! You call someone else sanctimonious? All I can hope is that you live your life around people that are like you. What if everyone did as I did...? Eliminating violent crime? Difficult to impossible. Eliminating gun related death? Doable. What it comes down to is the fact that you'd rather kill someone (or are comfortable with threatening to kill someone), and you don't care about the risks you expose others to to do it.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 14-May-2008 17:21
If you feel you have to carry a gun for "protection" to have a burger and a beer, I really,really do wonder about some of the REAL motives, HOWEVER you choose to play it, 1.Second amendment, 2."because I can", 3.I'm a tough guy/gal, 4.watch out fer me, 5.cops won't protect me, ONLY I CAN do that. or 6.I enjoy the feeling of POWER, 7 etc. WHATEVER, etc.. 8. I must carry a gun cause of(yer good reason here) Seems to me, like sometimes a gun is really just a penis.  No matter what one says.
From: crnkybitch
[cranky bitch]
Date: 14-May-2008 17:46
"If you feel you have to carry a gun for "protection" to have a burger and a beer," +++++ I totally agree Norace. I remember living in Texas before concealed carry. There was some silly minor shooting at a cafeteria there; one patron brought her gun with her, but left in the car due to the laws at that time. I'm sure she would also agree with you that bringing a gun out to eat with you is foolish, just don't except her murdered parents to agree. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hennard "On the other hand, in the states, whats obvious to the rest of us seems to be arcane knowledge to many americants........Shit man, its only stuff. You fricking prig! You call someone else sanctimonious? All I can hope is that you live your life around people that are like you." First of all, it's Americunts you dumbass. Secondly you go right ahead and give up all your "shit", along with your shitty life to whoever asks, personally I would rather shoot you and be a living Americunt than a dead goth NZ pothead.
From: slyslick [andwicked]
Date: 14-May-2008 17:53
Yeah, what cranky said. And I'd like to add, go fuck your mother, you dirty fucking hippy
From: studgerbil
[Stud]
Date: 14-May-2008 18:04
Last I heard, it was still illegal to murder someone, or to menace someone with a firearm, or to otherwise act really stupid while carrying a weapon. But simply carrying a registered firearm? Practical common sense. I've never owned one. I must rely on my great good looks, natty attire, wit, charm, and modesty to avoid conflict.
From: snatchvondrippy [snatch]
Date: 14-May-2008 18:05
aye-may the butt o a rifle stow yer nuts up to yer wild front ear
From: crnkybitch
[cranky bitch]
Date: 14-May-2008 18:17
Yep, i'm sure a sweet little thing couda taken out George that day. ++++ Norace at 5ft tall I'm the sweetest little sweet thing you ever did see. I wouldn't care to shoot someone over stuff, or shit as the pothead so eloquently put it. However, my life or my children's lives, I'll die trying. Maybe she could not have killed him or stopped him or slowed him down in anyway, but she should have had the chance.
From: crnkybitch
[cranky bitch]
Date: 14-May-2008 18:21
Again, a great justification fer guns. ++++ Sorry I missed this one. People bitch and moan about illegal aliens and criminals, but it is people like you Norace, that will be the death to not just this country but the world. Sadly there are brain dead cunts like you everywhere. Unable to function with out being given your orders. No worries for you, the friendly authorities will handle everything. *nice addition Sly.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 14-May-2008 18:27
Listen honey, I'll fucking take my chances UNARMED at restaurants, OK? I think that I have a MUCH, much greater chance being killed by ANY nitwit carrying a gun (and DRINKING fucking beer?) NO MATTER how fucking "trained" or "responsible you fucking CLAIM to be. Sorry. I don't want somebody NEXT to me in a RESTAURANT in the FUCKING USA that can at their very WHIM.. fucking blow me away. I'm JUST that way. Fuck you and any other gun NITWIT. Leave yer fucking guns at home AND AWAY from SANE folks LIKE me that don't WANT ANY fucking STRANGER next to them HOLDING a GUN. God damn .. Why is that so fucking hard to understand? Millions and MILLIONS of people don't want yer hidden or open guns around them, especially in PUBLIC. Don't you read ROTTEN? You want STRANGERS on the INTERNET holding a gun and drinking beer next to you? Think .. Killbill or jean (shudder)
From: crnkybitch
[cranky bitch]
Date: 14-May-2008 18:35
Millions and MILLIONS of people don't want yer hidden or open guns around them, especially in PUBLIC. ++++ It's as though you get more idiotic as the days go by. Sorry, babes the guns are already out there. Illegal and legal alike. But don't worry those good guys in the government will be taking them all away soon enough. Then we can all learn to be good citizens like you. Ok this was fun, but more than this and I can feel my brain starting to rot.
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 14-May-2008 18:40
...Luby's Cafeteria Killeen... At that time, it was illegal to bring a gun into a Texas restaurant. Suzanna Gratia Hupp, being a law abiding citizen, left her handgun in her car and watched this maniac kill 20 people, including her own parents. It's largely because of this shooting, and her testimony, that Texas now has concealed carry laws. She later served 10 terms in the Texas House of Reps.
From: ciaochowbella
[I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 14-May-2008 18:44
Nzgothpott, in American cities where gun ownership has been mandated by law, crime rates are very low. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1818862/posts There are guns on every continent and in places with strict gun control, only the criminals, police and military have guns......I don't like those odds. It might be only material goods to you, but material goods also can mean cattle, horses, dogs, etc.....and while not human life, also defensible in my estimation. Also, it's my shit that I worked and paid for.....not some crackhead/meth head/thief's to haul off and do with as they please. You might be willing to donate to the criminal, but I'm not. You, sir, are also a whiny sanctimonious twat who expects someone else to fight your battles and protect your property and person. I hope you have someone break into your home and rob you at gun point. But I guess you have the luxury living in the highly advanced and cosmopolitan nation of New Zealand......
From: tat2dchick
[The Tattooed Lady]
Date: 14-May-2008 18:49
Norace, you ignorant twat. Do you have any idea the number of people you come in contact with on a daily basis that carry a concealed weapon (legally or otherwise)? No doubt you would be stunned. I got my permit due to a stalker. I received quite a large amount of local/state publicity a decade+ ago when I had my business, grew it into something phenomenal in under 3 years and sold it for a few $Million all by the time I was 23. The publicity set me up, and I'd never allow it if I could do it over again because the price of my 15 minutes of fame was too high...my safety (it is also what makes me rather jealously guard any hints of my true identity online; I've already told more than makes me comfortable). I have no doubt whatsoever that my life was in danger from my fuckhead stalker, who incidentally did just over 4 years in state prison for the crime. He's out now...and I'm still as nervous as a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs about it. Would I give up my gun? To quote Mr. Heston, "When you pry it out of my cold, dead hand." So fuck you and your self serving bullshit. And fuck the NZ hippy asshole too. I don't care about my stuff, it's all replaceable. My life is not.
From: mrsstipic [Mrs. Stipic]
Date: 14-May-2008 19:01
> She later served 10 terms in the Texas House of Reps. What a way to get into politics - someone shooting your mom in the face while she's tryin' to eat some chicken an' dumplings and glazed carrots. > 1.Second amendment, Nope. Maybe a factor when buying and keeping a gun, but carrying a gun is more due to the jackals of the street, not the jackals in charge. > 2."because I can", The most useless reason for anything in history. Next person who says that one to me gets his ass kicked. > 3.I'm a tough guy/gal, Sometimes being tough is real goddamn helpful, and a gun goes a long way in that approach. > 4.watch out fer me, ???????? > 5.cops won't protect me, ONLY I CAN do that. Now you're talkin'. No, the pigs won't protect you (why do people even briefly entertain that notion), and yes, only you can protect yourself. > 6.I enjoy the feeling of POWER, Nothing wrong with feeling some extra power, and the ability to defend yourself is certainly a form of power. Just don't be a dick about it and all's well. > 7 etc. WHATEVER, etc.. > 8. I must carry a gun cause of(yer good reason here) Many reasons remain: a) A scumbag breaking into your house or car can't steal your gun if you're carrying it. b) Domestic animal attack. A few years ago, my friend's wife was attacked by two loose Rotts while on her evening walk to the book/coffee place. Occurred in a populated area. She was hurt pretty badly, but without her weapon she would have been shredded. Those dogs were serious badasses, and if you keep up with the news you know that nice doggies fuck up a shitload of people each year. c) Wild animal attack. One word: cougar. You don't have to be deep in the sticks to encounter dangerous predators. d) If someone utters the word "hater" in your presence, you have to shoot him or her immediately. Having a gun helps accomplish this. Young people are getting meaner and more depraved each year. Cops are getting lazier and more incompetent each year. Thug culture continues to turn blacks into terrible blacks. Cougars and pit bulls are what they are. Protect yourself.
From: ferret [Honkey Kong]
Date: 14-May-2008 19:02
noracejusthuman[Alien From Earth], that your gun and your cock theory of gun ownership incentive is older than Dinosaur Shit. "No, Americans Love Guns because America is the Land Of Opportunity: where a poor man can become rich, and A Pussy can be a Tough Guy, If He's Got A Gun In His Hand."  I Love Guns. But I Don't Carry One To Fudruckers. Besides, "I'm A Tough Guy, With A Pussy In His Hand."-Shoot 'Em Up-of the best movies in recent memory that nobody saw; though it's found new life on DVD as Fantastic Guilty/ Pleasure Cinema.
From: mencken
Date: 14-May-2008 19:03
From: sussler [Lou Sussler] Date: 14-May-2008 14:03 I would be extremely uncomfortable if I were dining in a restaurant and a number of people stood up, displayed weapons and made an announcement. Would I react. NO, THEY HAVE GUNS. Who the hell needs to wear a sidearm to eat a burger? We Need to Repeal the Second Amendment! -------------------- Way to go, Lou! While we're at it, let's repeal the 1st, 4th, 5th, and 14th Amendments as well. (I'm guessing you're a troll, but on the chance you're actually just a naive simpleton, please take your Pollyanna mindset and stick it up your ass.)
From: diarrheaomelette [with corn]
Date: 14-May-2008 19:39
Maybe the armed men were enforcing the smoking ban in restaurants. Just kidding. They were armed to make sure nobody got shot.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 14-May-2008 19:46
I love to rile up the gun nitwits.. Already did with the fucking "have all college students carry guns "just in fucking CASE" somebody does a school shooting".. The SAME bullshit reasoning that reminds me of WHY we NEED to LEGALIZE assault machine guns fer SELF PROTECTION and "wild game hunting". Right, people? Pulesse. Plus, yer also prepared to defend yerself against ufo aliens invading yer restaurants while yer eating yer burger and drinkin yer beer. Which is about as likely a reason as any to carry I suppose. Course if we lived in THE WILD WEST or in Somalia, I could understand a "need".. Somehow, I feel safe. Sorry yer folks don't.
From: crnkybitch
[cranky bitch]
Date: 14-May-2008 19:57
Somehow, I feel safe. ++++ Sorry, I can't resist one last comment. Well actually, just referring you to my previous comment: People bitch and moan about illegal aliens and criminals, but it is people like you Norace, that will be the death to not just this country but the world. Sadly there are brain dead cunts like you everywhere. Unable to function with out being given your orders. No worries for you, the friendly authorities will handle everything. You are the model citizen Norace. We silly humans don't need rights, we need rules, laws, regulations; we just need to shut up and obey. BTW, Tat, put that gun away sweetie, Norace assures you the police will protect you at all times. No need for you to be nervous, just sit back and be taken care of.
From: sawgunner [Doug]
Date: 14-May-2008 20:04
Damn, I hate it when I agree with Bella. The 2nd amendment is there so we can kill the government i case it gets out of hand. And don't expect the cops to be there to protect you when evil arrives; be prepared to protect yourself. And what idiot is more than happy to watch someone stroll off with all of his belongings without any thought of physically stopping the thief? It's only property, not worth taking a life? Ok, then c'mon ladies, it's only a little intercourse, it's not worth killing a would-be rapist. Protect yourselves, don't rely on anyone else to do it for you.
From: slyslick [andwicked]
Date: 14-May-2008 20:06
I guess the old adage "ignorance is bliss" must be true. Norace must be giddy with ecstacy. UFO aliens? How about deranged dumbasses who think it's jolly fun to shoot up a mall, or a Wendy's, or an Amish school FULL of innocent children, or a college campus, or their workplace? You are a fuckwit.
From: mrsstipic [Mrs. Stipic]
Date: 14-May-2008 20:09
> She later served 10 terms in the Texas House of Reps. What a way to get into politics - someone shooting your mom in the face while she's tryin' to eat some chicken an' dumplings and glazed carrots. > 1.Second amendment, Nope. Maybe a factor when buying and keeping a gun, but carrying a gun is more due to the jackals of the street, not the jackals in charge. > 2."because I can", The most useless reason for anything in history. Next person who says that one to me gets his ass kicked. > 3.I'm a tough guy/gal, Sometimes being tough is real goddamn helpful, and a gun goes a long way in that approach. > 4.watch out fer me, ???????? > 5.cops won't protect me, ONLY I CAN do that. Now you're talkin'. No, the pigs won't protect you (why do people even briefly entertain that notion), and yes, only you can protect yourself. > 6.I enjoy the feeling of POWER, Nothing wrong with feeling some extra power, and the ability to defend yourself is certainly a form of power. Just don't be a dick about it and all's well. > 7 etc. WHATEVER, etc.. > 8. I must carry a gun cause of(yer good reason here) Many reasons remain: a) A scumbag breaking into your house or car can't steal your gun if you're carrying it. b) Domestic animal attack. A few years ago, my friend's wife was attacked by two loose Rotts while on her evening walk to the book/coffee place. Occurred in a populated area. She was hurt pretty badly, but without her weapon she would have been shredded. Those dogs were serious badasses, and if you keep up with the news you know that nice doggies fuck up a shitload of people each year. c) Wild animal attack. One word: cougar. You don't have to be deep in the sticks to encounter dangerous predators. d) If someone utters the word "hater" in your presence, you have to shoot him or her immediately. Having a gun helps accomplish this. Young people are getting meaner and more depraved each year. Cops are getting lazier and more incompetent each year. Cougars and pit bulls are what they are. Protect yourself.
From: ferret [Honkey Kong]
Date: 14-May-2008 20:09
noracejusthuman[Alien From Earth] so if it's true, then this woman must be a gunshot victim 
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 14-May-2008 20:19
You miss the point here cranky. I have a VERY valid concern. Based on the ODDS... Fer SOME, not ALL..gun advocates, the "argument" to carry a gun because of(whatever)... To me is like saying one would be "justified" to wear a "lighting rod" on their head at all times .. because they "might get struck by lightening".. Again, I don't begruge any one's right to own a gun. It's the LAW of the land. I don't pretend to critize Tattoo chick or you or bella or anyone else I "know" here the reasons why they carry their weapon. I don't have that right, of course. No, my problem is I think I SHOULD ALSO have a "right" not to have to worry about an armed person, a stranger, DRINKING ETOH, someone I fucking don't know from ADAM, eating next to me. Why is that SO hard to get fer you? I'm not "attacking" you. And I know there are NOT guns in MY city restaurants. Except fer our police folks. And I REALLY LIKE THAT. I just feel uncomfortable with people (STRANGERS, you know, the kind that can JUST START SHOOTING AWAY),, that think THEY need to be armed. Especially in a RESTAURANT. So, what are the odds? The way I see it...The more people AROUND ME PERSONALLY with guns, the more CHANCES of accidents, etc.. Sorry , I just don't like those odds, ESP WHEN it's MY fucking life. so I guess, fuck you and yer SELF serving too.
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 14-May-2008 20:30
Norace, you are an idiot savant, minus the savant part. Please, protect yourself in the next thunderstorm by wearing a lightning rod on your head.
From: sawgunner [Doug]
Date: 14-May-2008 20:32
Norace, Think for a moment here. The law concerns citizens being legally armed. If someone plans on going into a restaurant and wiping out the patrons, the fact that taking the gun into the restaurant isn't allowed will not stop the nut. It will stop a law-abiding somebody else from taking down the nut when he starts busting caps.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 14-May-2008 20:32
I wonder ...Why don't we allow people to carry their guns (or LARGE knives) in my hospital? Isn't that fucking up somebody's "rights" to self protection? Gestapo tactics , I know. But, It's really FUNNY.. I can't seem to find any OTHER FUCKING Hospital staff member to agree with you guys that patients carrying guns in the ER is a wise thing.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 14-May-2008 20:38
In summary.. TWO main points from my perspective. And my perspective is the only one here that counts, right? 1.More guns equal more chances they can go off. somehow. 2.People are people. I just don't want to be around em when they do, saw. And, yes. I'm glad and fortunate to live in a safe place. I truly feel sad fer youse that don't. Seriously. I wish you all the safety in the world.
From: ferret [Honkey Kong]
Date: 14-May-2008 21:02
And what keeps your place safe, noracejusthuman[Alien From Earth]?  but only they should have guns, Yes! -so they can keep Everyone absolutely under control:)
From: ferret [Honkey Kong]
Date: 14-May-2008 21:15
i must say, holstering weapons is way too Old West for my taste.......i adore the tiny, super-concealable, killing machines: like this wallet gun  and it's perfect for shoot 'em up chow downs At the end of the meal, when your usual waiter asks, "and how will you be paying?" you answer: "Do you see me reaching for My Fucking Wallet?!
From: absintheredux
[Green Death]
Date: 14-May-2008 21:22
NRA forever! As usual Norace is being a fucking moron, so what else is new? Lots of posts (I googled) by one (or more) "Lou Sussler(s)" to a local forum and Starbuck's Blog. Maybe the same and maybe not. After all there must be a whole raft of Lou Susslers in the US (especially, I think, on Long Island). Nevertheless an Idiot. I think Norace loves to see himself as a "Martyr to the Cause", proudly defying the onslaught of the Unfeeling.
From: sirmalek [greatmalek]
Date: 14-May-2008 21:30
the only thing I know is never say you have a gun that's like a rule or something, last week I was drinking with some old buddies then one of them took out a gun I really felt uncomfortable and just left, probably Im wrong but I just think alcohol and guns dont mix.
From: ciaochowbella
[I didn't do it and I wasn't there when it happened]
Date: 14-May-2008 22:01
Norace, you're the one not thinking...... First, if you take the guns away from law-abiding citizens, you leave them in the hands of criminals, cops and military. NOT good odds. In countries with strict gun control, criminal types do find ways to get firearms. Second, an armed populace is a populace that has less crime.....see the link I gave to NZ..... Third, autos are more deadly than guns, but you don't hear folks screaming "car control" every time some toddler dies in a wreck. Sure cars are useful, but so are guns. The cops NEVER prevent crime....they catch criminals who have ALREADY COMMITTED crime. If someone breaks in my house, he will be met with fire....period. I'm not fool enough to call the cops and wait for them to protect me.....they can come get the corpse. While I agree that no one needs an assault rifle to hunt with, it does come in damned handy when there are prowlers out and about or the local meth head goes on a rampage. Nothing quite gets the attention like a spray of lead. And no, I don't have one and no one I know does.....but I sure would like one.
From: cuda1179 [Matt]
Date: 14-May-2008 22:17
My friend was in the Westroads mall in Omaha when that Son of a bitch started shooting. I opted to not go with him that day (Thank God I had to work and he left minutes before it happened) If I was there I would NOT have been a hero. I would have been holed-up in some dark corner shitting myself. However if there was even one person with a shitty nine mil with me I would fell better. Guns don't go off by themselves. Load one, cock the hammer and put it down. It will stay that way for years. If an establishment doesn't want guns there, fine. The ones that do are still required to not get patrons any where near plastered, so they are still able to think. People that are armed CAN NOT pull their weapon out and waive it around, that is still illegal.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 14-May-2008 22:20
Bella , my point exactly. It's about the odds.. Driving yer car is FAR far far far far more likely to kill ya than a shootout at the Luby's, MacDonald's, in Killem ,California. ;) So why are so many folks WORRIED about packin HEAT at brunch to PROTECT their FAMILY while at the SAME TIME scrimp or ignore.. gettin those brakes adjusted/worn tires replaced, etc, etc.. in between paydays to and FROM THE RESTAURANT? That sounds silly to me as a "reason" to carry, is all. REALISTIC RISK. My point exactly. Thanks.
From: clenis [its ALL my fault]
Date: 15-May-2008 00:45
From: jesussavez [Just hanging around] Date: 14-May-2008 14:12 Hey numbnuts, the 2nd Amendment is there for when the government ignores the others. The government has been ignoring the others for years now. What have you and your gun done about it?
From: fartnozzle
[Hiznibs]
Date: 15-May-2008 01:36
Damn, these dumbass debates is why I don't do my local newspaper's talkback forum any more...If you wanna gun, go getta gun. Personally, I think handguns are like chainsaws; everyone who owns one eventually will be hurt using it. I'm personally for the right to keep and bear arms, but let's limit it to a choice of three weapons: a blunderbuss, a pennsyltucky flintlock rifle, or a pirate pistol. Your choice. Oh, and also, if you carry the blunderbuss, you have to wear a pilgrim hat. Flintlock? Coonskin cap, of course. pirate pistol? A cap'n crunch-style with skull and cross-bones. That way, carriers will be instantly recognizable and easily avoidable. There. Problem solved.
From: piscivore [Michael C. Scott]
Date: 15-May-2008 02:38
I used to be a WW-2 battle-reenactor. Once, we all went to dinner, still in uniform: American, British and German. We were not armed, as our rifles were in our cars. We were seated and then a manager came a few minutes later to tell us that the "Nazis" could not be served. I was wearing the uniform of the 11th SS "Reinhard Heydrich" regiment, and stood up to walk out. Everyone followed me. Thirty guys times an eight-dollar dinner equals $240 the shitbag manager kissed off that evening. Nobody I know has ever been back to that restaurant.
From: other [unclassified]
Date: 15-May-2008 02:49
Guns are for bad guys. Gun laws assure that.
From: morte266
[Old and Tired]
Date: 15-May-2008 03:20
Norace: Just because you's rather take your chances without a weapon on your person does not mean that everyone has to. You are missing one small point. Several people on this thread have tried to make it but they didn't say it straight out. That small point is... Every law abiding citizen should ahve the right to be able to protect themselves. When law abiding people aren't allowed to arm themselves to protect themselves from criminals and psychos then they go from being people to being victims. No one should eb forced to become a victim without cause (Felons, Stalkers, etc.) I'll even go so far as to say that a law abiding person has the responsibility to be able to protect themselves or their family. If you family dies because you chose not to get the devices necessary to protect them then you have failed them. Personally, I do not take a weapon with me everywhere I go... I tend to only go armed when I'm on a trip. But that is my choice. I probably should be armed when I go out, especially in my profession, but I usually don't bother with it. That is a risk I'm willing to run, however.. and if something should happen then the only person I could blame for it (other than the bad guy) is myself. I personally would not move to a place that did not let me keep a weapon in the house for protection. I consider it ludicrous that any people would allow their government to take away so basic a right as the right of a person to defend themself. Congratulations, by allowing your government to take away the right of self protection you just devolved from humans to sheep.
From: unwholesome
[gravy-boy johnson]
Date: 15-May-2008 04:54
i work in reston, va, and here's my perspective: * reston is in northern, va which is the blue part of the state. most people are for some degree of gun control. * despite being located a mere 10 miles or so from the NRA hq, people who go to reston to eat (see exceptions below) do NOT normally carry guns around, nor do they desire to. if i'm a restaurant manager, and someone wearing a gun but no badge or uniform comes into my establishment, it just might be a big red flag to deny him/her/them service. the restaurants mentioned in the article are privately owned establishments whose management reserves the right to deny service to anyone for whatever reason they want (e.g., if someone smells less than nice, which is also a person's right as an american). * most of the people who go to lovely reston to eat live in or very close to the town where seung-hui cho lived and went to or have kids, friends, distant acquaintances, etc. that went to/go to/have been accepted to va tech. most of them are still a bit freaked out by guns. these are not the cowboys and girls who live in the other parts of the state who think they could've singlehandedly prevented the va tech massacre if they only had a gun. these are meek business people and soccer moms we're talking about. * people who work for the government, law enforcement and the military industrial complex (dyncorp, lockhead, raytheon, etc. are all in reston) do carry guns, and likely several of them will be eating in one of the yuppie hellhole restaurants mentioned in the article at any given time. you'd have to be a moron to try to pull something in any restaurant that serves what's commonly referred to as "american food" in reston, va. let the experienced people shoot at the hypothetical gun-toting bad guys (who are really not a big part of the reston demographic, i might add). go ahead now. bash away at these facts. it's not like i care if people carry guns, or even mind if a shootout were to happen in reston. the way i look at it, it'd be fewer money-driven, SUV-driving, egoistic dickhead fucks for me to tolerate on a day-today basis. i'm just saying that custom is king for these WASPy scumbags, and carrying a gun is not their custom. a restaurant owner has a lot to risk by admitting the gun loving one percent at the expense of the monied many.
From: spinoza
Date: 15-May-2008 05:38
From: piscivore [Michael C. Scott] Date: 15-May-2008 02:38 I used to be a WW-2 battle-reenactor. --------------------------- Of course you were. why dont you just join the army for real? Lets see how much of tough guy you are then
From: crazyanglo
[Anglo G. Crazy]
Date: 15-May-2008 07:09
Hey Ferret, I've got one of those wallet guns in .22 magnum. It's louder and has more head-banging concussion than my .44. If you ever have to use it, jam it in his or her gut or you'll never hear again. 
From: jesussavez [Just hanging around]
Date: 15-May-2008 07:45
1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject. 2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone. 3. Colt: The original point and click interface. 4. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control. 5. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords? 6. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words. 7. "Free" men do not ask permission to bear arms. 8. If you don't know your rights you don't have any. 9. Those who trade liberty for security have neither. 10. The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights reserved. 11. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand? 12. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others. 13. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday. 14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians. 15. Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety. 16. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive. 17. 911 - government sponsored Dial-a-Wish. 18. Assault is a behavior, not a device. 19. Criminals love gun control -- it makes their jobs safer. 20. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson. 21. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them. 22. You only have the rights you are willing to fight for. 23. Enforce the "gun control laws" we ALREADY have, don't make more. 24. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves. 25. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control. 26. "A government of the people, by the people, for the people..." "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." Thomas Jefferson
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 15-May-2008 09:52
.... Personally, I think handguns are like chainsaws; everyone who owns one eventually will be hurt using it.... Everyone I know has a chainsaw, but I've never known anyone who's hurt themselves with it. Of course, I've never known anyone who's hurt themselves with their gun, either.
From: ascott
Date: 15-May-2008 09:57
Just for the record. Did anyone remember to take the gun from Charlton Heston's cold dead hands before they planted him?
From: bert [Bert]
Date: 15-May-2008 10:25
I know people who have shot themselves accidentaly, and people who have hurt their self with a chainsaw. Generally stupid people, and/or folks who drank, then handled the gun or power tool.
From: patsystonecheers
[Patsy Stone]
Date: 15-May-2008 14:33
From: bert [Bert] Date: 15-May-2008 10:25 I know people who have shot themselves accidentaly, and people who have hurt their self with a chainsaw. Generally stupid people, and/or folks who drank, then handled the gun or power tool. ----------- you forgot cars maybe outlaw sedans?
From: unwholesome
[gravy-boy johnson]
Date: 15-May-2008 15:22
 pussies *er* firearm enthusiasts: these awr the mean peepowe you need to pwotect yowself fwom at champps. shoot them already. it would do us both a favor. you'll no longer need to worry about them lurking around and depriving you and yours of life and liberty, or whatever you think they're they're trying to get from you while you're sucking down overpriced shit food and piss beer in a obsequiously friendly yuppie-oriented quasi-sports bar setting. and i won't have to sit behind them in traffic anymore.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 15-May-2008 16:25
Morte, I never have said that people can't have guns.. My point over and over is that I think I should also HAVE A RIGHT NOT TO.. BE FORCED to be around ALL yer millions of dumbass guns, machine guns, etc... MEANING keep em at home,and I swear I won't invade yer family. Cause, regardless of YER TRAINING and "cool way of being", YOU could fucking hurt me or kill me with yer fucking guns. I DON"T LIKE that kinda power in YER hands around me.. Why does EVERYBODY that's pro gun seem NOT TO get this? What is so hard fer you folks to understand? I don't prefer my life in yer dumbass hands, STRANGER. Especially when YER DRINKING BEER!
From: absintheredux
[Green Death]
Date: 15-May-2008 16:32
I think I should also HAVE A RIGHT NOT TO.. BE FORCED to be around ALL yer millions of dumbass guns, machine guns, etc... MEANING keep em at home,and I swear I won't invade yer family. ________________________________________ Then stay "safely" at home; no one is forcing to go out and expose yourself to imaginary dangers.
From: crnkybitch
[cranky bitch]
Date: 15-May-2008 16:48
I think I should also HAVE A RIGHT NOT TO.. BE FORCED to be around ALL yer millions of dumbass guns, machine guns, etc... MEANING keep em at home,and I swear I won't invade yer family. ________________________________________ Then stay "safely" at home; no one is forcing to go out and expose yourself to imaginary dangers. +++++++ Damn you GD, you beat me to it. Sorry Norace my right to protect myself and my children outweighs your right to being a pussy. Besides you have nothing to worry about as you have said in your own posts, no one in your quaint, small town is armed except the police. Must say it's cute, but not surprising that you would think that is true. I'm curious what rights you would not give up? In post after post (not just this thread)you make it abundantly clear that if a thing is good for the greater society then you are all for it. Personal freedoms and individual rights seem to scare you. Just because you might be unable to make decisions for yourself and your family does not mean that others are equally incapable. I don't need mommy and daddy government standing at my shoulder telling me how to live. We have institutions and special homes for people that can not care for themselves, I wish people like you that need to be told what to do and what to think and say all the time would check into that.
From: stfu
[yeah, it's me]
Date: 15-May-2008 16:49
has anyone mentioned that norace is an idiot, yet? im taking my ccw class with a coworker sometime in the next mo. then i can get drunk and shoot my 45 into the ceiling at my local watering hole, while yelling something like "yee-haw" ill try not to hit any innocent chillins....really.
From: slyslick [andwicked]
Date: 15-May-2008 16:53
From Norace: And, yes. I'm glad and fortunate to live in a safe place. I truly feel sad fer youse that don't. Seriously. I wish you all the safety in the world. ----------- Cause, regardless of YER TRAINING and "cool way of being", YOU could fucking hurt me or kill me with yer fucking guns. I DON"T LIKE that kinda power in YER hands around me.. So, exactly WHO is it that lives in fear?
From: crnkybitch
[cranky bitch]
Date: 15-May-2008 16:55
has anyone mentioned that norace is an idiot, yet? +++++ It just goes without say STFU, mentioning it would be like saying fire burns, water is wet. We can get together after your class and go 'round shootin' up anybody that looks at us. Golly hon' I sure hope I can shoot straight drunk.
From: stfu
[yeah, it's me]
Date: 15-May-2008 17:00
cranky, ive got something to tell ya. im in to chicks over 5'5", so, i dont think i can see you anymore in "That way" i would, however, be glad to go shooting at stop signs with you.
From: crnkybitch
[cranky bitch]
Date: 15-May-2008 17:07
Not a problem STFU. I'm only into one really tall, dark haired, browned eyed man myself, he appreciates my short bendable way. I just can't see any one else "That Way". But shooting stop signs will be fun.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 15-May-2008 17:33
When you folks say I'm somehow unworthy, cause i don't want to wave a gun around to "protect' my family. Then, I really do think yer guns are yer dicks. Really, no matter what yer "reason" you say.
From: snatchvondrippy [snatch]
Date: 15-May-2008 17:41
i ha several penis's-and thar lock, stock and two smoking barrels- the meek shall not inherit the earth- they'll be dead by then- no substitute for empty shells at yer feet-eat or be eaten-eh
From: bert [Bert]
Date: 15-May-2008 18:34
The meek SHALL inherit the earth- In very small parcels, about six feet by two.
From: morte266
[Old and Tired]
Date: 15-May-2008 19:19
Norace... They don't really think you are an idiot because you don't want to go armed to protect yourself. They think you are an idiot because you want THEM to not be able to protect themselves. You aren't comfortable around guns. fine.. I already mentioned that I rarely go armed myself when I'm not on duty. But you would like to infringe on their rights to defend themselves because you are opposed to it. I don't care if you choose to be a victim.. however I have a serious problem with people like you wanting to force me to be a victim, too.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 15-May-2008 20:16
Morte, the reason people don't like my comments is that they hit close to home fer many. If you read my posts carefully, I have never said they or anyone else can't,have a firearm My observations are pointed about relative risk, odds and the silly reasons people claim to "need" their guns. And regardless of what some folks care to admit, I see a lotta gun penises out there. Don't try to kid a kidder son
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 15-May-2008 20:48
The silly thing of it Auldy, is that Nobody wants to be honest about it. You know, it's OK to feel like .... "powerful" with a hand gun. There is a STRONG attraction. I know. In Basic Training i was AWED by the POWER in my hands,, An M16 rifle is a thrill to fire. Also I got an opportunity to fire a 50 cal machine gun, Talk about GODDAMN kickass COOL... Again, I just like to make fun of the ones that can't admit a gun a big power trip. Which, I suspect fer a great majority of folks is the ONLY REAL REASON to have one. A big power trip. In other words, have yer guns... But don't pretend to NORACE to "justify" them only cause yer want "protection". I try to call them as I see em Aulduron. And again as you realize, my point of view is the only one that counts.. fer me . Right?
From: stfu
[yeah, it's me]
Date: 15-May-2008 20:57
norace, i have no qualms about what you believe in. your view points do not "hit close to home". i just think youre an idiot, who posts at a 9th grade level, in both content and syntax.
From: crnkybitch
[cranky bitch]
Date: 15-May-2008 21:00
I know. In Basic Training i was AWED by the POWER in my hands,, +++++ So because it gave you a power trip it must give everyone a power trip? Do you presume that everyone must share the same feelings you get from everything? Sorry it doesn't work that way. And again as you realize, my point of view is the only one that counts.. fer me . Right? ++++ And yet you want your point of view enforced on everyone.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 15-May-2008 21:10
Looks like fer at least two people.. Sumpin hit close to home. :0 PS.. STFU, You disappoint me.. ..puppy.. personal attacks on norace? 9th grade? Ah come on ... yer can do better. Maybe you NEED yer gun. to fight with.. yer words keep missing ..LOL
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 15-May-2008 21:16
In fact, STFU if ya want to "fight" me.. You would DEFINITELY be better off using yer gun to fight with .. than yer "intellect". At least with a gun you've got a fighting chance, Right? LOL.. The gun,... a GREAT equalizer in more ways than one. :o
From: dontsqueak
[DS is talking]
Date: 15-May-2008 21:20
From: noracejusthuman [Alien From Earth] Date: 15-May-2008 21:16 In fact, STFU if ya want to "fight" me.. You would DEFINITELY be better off using yer gun to fight with .. than yer "intellect". At least with a gun you've got a fighting chance, Right? LOL.. The gun,... a GREAT equalizer in more ways than one. :o ----------- Uh oh - I think nograce is making another reference about penises. Keep YER pants zipped dude. 
From: crnkybitch
[cranky bitch]
Date: 15-May-2008 21:29
I guess I feel comfortable enough in my own masculinity without having to own one or more firearms. ++++ No you just expect to always be taken care of, like the perpetual child that you are. Sumpin hit close to home. ++++ Not at all Norace. I do not need to wave a gun around, nor would I. I have a great deal of self control, perhaps you have none and think the rest of the world shares your feelings there also. Does a gun make me feel more powerful? No but in certain situations it would make me feel (and be) safer. As for a gun being a penis, sorry my man has a nice penis I don't need a substitute, maybe you have issues of some sort.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 15-May-2008 21:31
For real, STFU my birthday's tommorrow May 16th, Goin to Barnes and Noble and Bookmans tommorrow to buy my presents! I've got the next two days off and i feel great! I'll be 51 by the way , ds. Please don't shoot me guys! I've too much to live for. Or , maybe I should buy myself a Birthday gun? to keep me safe and PROTECTED.
From: dontsqueak
[DS is talking]
Date: 15-May-2008 21:48
From: noracejusthuman [Alien From Earth] Date: 15-May-2008 21:31 For real, STFU my birthday's tommorrow May 16th, Goin to Barnes and Noble and Bookmans tommorrow to buy my presents! ------------ That's funny; it's yer birthday and you have to buy yer own presents.
From: whicker [Whicker]
Date: 15-May-2008 22:09
The Gun Control Issue is a firecracker subject, no matter which side of the fence you tread. I support the 2nd Amendment. I have trained in the Armed Forces (Marines). I have spent many years learning, and refining my skills with small arms, and have reached the Classification of 'Expert' with them. For those who do NOT want to carry/bear arms, go for it! Ain't our Country a GREAT place to live!? For those who DO wish to carry arms, go for it! Ain't our Country a GREAT place to live!? Sadly, it is not. Politicians, and local Law Enforcement (that's a misnomer if ever there was one!), would gladly see the entire public (those who are 'Law abiding', mind!) without the means to defend ourselves against an armed criminal element. For each and every incident of a Criminal shooting the populace, all I have to say to the 'Naysayers' is, "Which scenerio would YOU rather find yourself in: 1)ARMED and having the means to protect NOT only yourselves, but those around you?, or 2)UNARMED, and at the literal mercy of the Armed Assailant, with literally NO hope of intervention? Think about THAT for awhile... For those willing, and able, to train themselves in Armed Defense, 'WHY' should anyone else worry? For those willing to use a firearm AGAINST Civilians illegally,,,, Well,,,, I KNOW you would think twice about it, if you KNEW there were an armed populace right next to you, ready to punch your fucking ticket if you ever actually got out of hand! So, in the end, you have a very simple choice- 1)Be sheep, ready for a slaughter 2)Be Armed, ready to defend yourself/others. Seems quite simple. But I doubt the American populace has the balls to stand up for itself, when it really matters. *sighs* Too bad. I once thought this Country to be a very great Democracy. I am learning the error of my thinking. Whicker
From: doomsauce [Charlie B]
Date: 15-May-2008 22:16
I would assume that old Chuck Heston's gun has indeed been pried out of his cold dead hands. You don't want bury a perfectly good firearm, unless it's in a water and airtight container that only you know the whereabouts of.
From: cuda1179 [Matt]
Date: 15-May-2008 22:23
For many carrying a gun is like a single person owning condoms. Do they expect to fuck someone every night? Do they expect someone to fuck them around every corner? No, of course not. However, it is better to have one, and not need it, then it is to need one and not have it. A loaded gun can not "accidentally" discharge any more than a condom can "accidentally" put itself on someones dick.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 15-May-2008 22:28
I get presents/cards from mrsnorace and all 4 of my kids too, ds. MAY 16th is just ONE day outta the year I get to buy what I want.. seven hundred bucks in my pocket! Icing on my birthday cake! I'm had my eye on this great WWII coffee table book fer 60 bucks fer starters. And I'm gonna get some more roman coins to clean fer my collection.. I wanna get some new black mollies fer the community tank and some more plants fer breeding same. and I bought myself some more WWII airplane and tank plastic model kits. What are you getting me this year Ds? Good thing I'm a overpaid RN.
From: absintheredux
[Green Death]
Date: 15-May-2008 22:32
Norace: "I know. In Basic Training i was AWED by the POWER in my hands,, ___________________________________________ Firing any firearm is no more of a "power trip" for me than shooting my bow. It is a "trip" in mind and body control. Breath control, steadying the body, keeping focussed on the sight picture while conscious of the target, and being able to call the shot (an eidetic image of the sights at the moment the trigger "breaks"). Plus developing the ability to do all of the above under extreme pressure and reactively. I often will do a series of push-ups and/or a 200 yrd dash before an exercise in rapid fire, to tax mind and body. You, as usual, babble from inexperience.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 15-May-2008 22:41
And you my dear GD, babble from a position of self importance, as usual. Certainly I would expect someone of yer powerful intellect and self control to be Superior in every possible wiccan/zen/crystal/ mystic vortex way. As for becoming "one with gun" My lowbrow "gun equals Penis/power trip" argument only applies to the common folk... Right DD?
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 15-May-2008 22:49
Hey matt.. If a loaded gun "can't" accidentally discharge .. as you indicated by saying condoms don't put themselves on.. Uhh,, THEN what exactly ARE all those "accidental firearm" discharges that we keep track of? Or are condoms, in fact... sentient beings? Are yer sure yer not new here? Or are you just a VETERAN dumbass?
From: hippityhopp
[bunny meat is good!]
Date: 15-May-2008 23:02
so what have we learned this week on rotten? Sandy shit himself. And Norace is ascared of the loud noises that guns make, and he'd be ever so much happier if he could just wish them away into the cornfield...
From: absintheredux
[Green Death]
Date: 15-May-2008 23:17
Norace, any serious marksman would tell you the same thing I did. What I mentioned are merely the very basics, there's even a lot more to it. And yes, Kyudo is based on many similar principles. The human body is much the same everywhere, and responds to the same approaches when undertaking similar tasks. Again, more babble from total ignorance.
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 16-May-2008 00:30
Again.. Bubba in West Virginne babbles just like you too GD.. Except he's havin cheetos and beer fer dinner tonight. and then we're goin shootin. Fuck the bow, I'm too drunk to see... Hand me the AK ,, Cleetus
From: erethism [i suspect]
Date: 16-May-2008 04:36
A good gun is perfectly crafted machinery. i started reading Guns and Ammo in 7th grade along with Hustler and Playboy, the messy politics of ownership and disenfranchisement is best simply refered to the NRA
From: bert [Bert]
Date: 16-May-2008 05:50
norace, "accidental discharge" of a gun almost always means NEGLIGENT discharge. BTW, to continue the penis analogy you favor- I see a lot of the results of the penile version of ND walking around, wasting perfectly good Oxygen and clogging the aisles at Wal-Mart... Since you're not able to wish the bad old penises (er, guns) under the cornfield, you should be happy that sensible owners do practice using them properly, rather than dissing them for it.
From: daredevil [CameronVale]
Date: 16-May-2008 06:48
This is the first time I'm reading through this thread....mostly sane gun-rights advocates sprinkled with a few mindless fools. I believe it is safe to say that no nig-noggerous crack-head or rapey blacks opened their profane gobs to the white waitresses or even (miraculously) eyed the cash register or tried an eat-and-run! Perhaps firearm carry should be compulsory? And in full disclosure....I should admit to a few Orlando Pizza Hut 'scoff and scarpers' myself 187 years ago!
From: jesussavez [Just hanging around]
Date: 16-May-2008 07:21
I've been around guns for all my life and have heard many of them discharge. None accidentally, someone always pulled the trigger. I do have a purchase selection for ya Norace. How about a copy of the Constitution? Currently I own 3 long guns and one handgun. I never carry them and do not at the moment have a CCW. The main reason for that is I would need a new handgun since the one I own has been passed down and I can't register it. I don't feel the threat of needing one outside of my home enough to justify the purchase. My expendable income isn't such to make said purchase. But I do take solace that there are many of my fellow citizens that do. But here's the thing. I don't expect to be in a car accident. I don't expect my house to catch on fire. I don't expect to go to the hospital. I don't expect to die early. Yet I carry insurance just in case. I don't live in New Orleans but I know that where I live can be devastated by an earthquake or tornado. The firearms I have at home is to protect me and my family in such a case. Ask how many people in New Orleans would have wished to have had a gun during Katrina. Ask how many of them thought the police and government would be there to protect them. I'll end on a happy note. Have a Happy Birthday and hope you and the wifey and some wild and kinky sex. Better yet, buy yourself one of these. 
From: noracejusthuman
[Alien From Earth]
Date: 16-May-2008 11:27
Hey bert. I've got no problem with SMART, calm, thoughtful and intelligent guns owners such as yerself, Morte.. and APPARENTLY 99% of the posters here. ;) It's the OTHERS .. I'm concerned with. How DO YOU TELL the difference Bert? Ya see , I've seen quite a few things in my 51 years on this planet. I have witnessed terrible things.. I know certain citizens that have guns. And they are scary.
From: sussler [Lou Sussler]
Date: 16-May-2008 12:48
Wow, thanks for all the flames. I'm not going to address them except to say that, of course, I disagree with them all. I seriously think that the 2nd amendment should be repealed. Let the states decide how they want to handle gun ownership individually. If a state wants to regulate guns like they regulate automobiles, fine let them. My reading (and I'm not alone) is that a plain language reading of the 2nd does not give people the right to owns guns anyway. Repealing it would be of little consequence in states like Texas and Virginia where the majority of people seem to support the idea that the citizenry should be armed. It would be of tremendous benefit to states which agree with the idea that gun ownership should be regulated. This country regulates lots and lots of things successfully and I'm not sure why you believe that guns should be exempt. Look at that, I stated an opposing viewpoint without resorting to vile name calling. Damned impressive.
From: jesussavez [Just hanging around]
Date: 16-May-2008 13:02
You know, I'm with you. I wish they would attempt to repeal the 2nd Amendment. It would guaran-fucking-tee a house-cleaning in Washington. Something that is long overdue. 
From: bungmunch
[muncher of bung]
Date: 16-May-2008 13:19
From: sussler [Lou Sussler] Date: 16-May-2008 12:48 Wow, thanks for all the flames. I'm not going to address them except to say that, of course, I disagree with them all. I seriously think that the 2nd amendment should be repealed. Let the states decide how they want to handle gun ownership individually. If a state wants to regulate guns like they regulate automobiles, fine let them. My reading (and I'm not alone) is that a plain language reading of the 2nd does not give people the right to owns guns anyway. Repealing it would be of little consequence in states like Texas and Virginia where the majority of people seem to support the idea that the citizenry should be armed. It would be of tremendous benefit to states which agree with the idea that gun ownership should be regulated. This country regulates lots and lots of things successfully and I'm not sure why you believe that guns should be exempt. Look at that, I stated an opposing viewpoint without resorting to vile name calling. Damned impressive. --------------- you are a fucking douchebag
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 16-May-2008 14:19
...My reading (and I'm not alone) is that a plain language reading of the 2nd does not give people the right to owns guns anyway.... Then what right do you think the 2nd amendment gives us?
From: jesussavez [Just hanging around]
Date: 16-May-2008 14:45
From: aulduron [Aulduron] Date: 16-May-2008 14:19 ...My reading (and I'm not alone) is that a plain language reading of the 2nd does not give people the right to owns guns anyway.... Then what right do you think the 2nd amendment gives us? ===================================== Brilliant!
From: aulduron
[Aulduron]
Date: 16-May-2008 15:06
Every amendment in the Bill of Rights limits the government by guaranteeing rights to the individuals(and in one case, it also guarantees a states rights). What makes the 2nd amendment different, in this regard?
From: patsystonecheers
[Patsy Stone]
Date: 16-May-2008 15:16
Aulduron, Trying to have any intelligent conversation about this very basic and important issue is like trying to talk to a kid with his hand covering his ears yelling "la la la la I can't hear you la la la la". To some people, ignorance is bliss.
From: piscivore [Michael C. Scott]
Date: 16-May-2008 21:05
We already did see how tough a guy I was before then, with over 200 heavy shell hits and artillery rockets on my position every day. I was scared so bad I could suck on hard candy and drink plum brandy, but not hold down solid food. I used to piss my pants on purpose because I knew I was going to do it anyway, but I never ran away. I doubt any Americans have been shelled that way since Correigidor in 1942, or maybe Bastogne in 1944, so why don't you just fuck the fucking fuck off? Let's see you do three months of that, and three years of fedeal prison afterward. You aren't tough. You don't know what "tough" is.
From: satman101 [PT111 Pro]
Date: 22-May-2008 20:17
I don't carry a gun to kill people. I carry a gun to keep from being killed. I don't carry a gun to scare people. I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary place. I don't carry a gun because I'm paranoid. I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world. I don't carry a gun because I'm evil. I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world. I don't carry a gun because I hate the government. I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government. I don't carry a gun because I'm angry. I carry a gun so that I don't have to spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared. I don't carry a gun because I want to shoot someone. I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon. I don't carry a gun because I'm a cowboy. I carry a gun because, when I die and go to heaven, I want to be a cowboy. I don't carry a gun to make me feel like a man. I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love. I don't carry a gun because I feel inadequate. I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate. I don't carry a gun because I love it. I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me. "Police Protection" is an oxymoron. Free citizens must protect themselves. Police do not protect you from crime, they usually just investigate the crime after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess. Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an *ss kickin'. John Steinbeck issued a warning that all should remember: "Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
Updated: 22-May-2008 20:17
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